Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: BH FOTM and Alpha class?
Message Edited by HyprHypo on 09-03-2005 07:09 PM
Good and fair point, I never have AFK a grind to date. Oh and I am not saying BH is alpha class myself, just wondering with all the BH these day if it will have the negative impact it has on Jedi (to many running around).
Message Edited by Nastypope on 09-03-2005 07:12 PM
Message Edited by Nastypope on 09-03-2005 07:13 PM
Nastypope wrote:
Good and fair point, I never have AFK a grind to date.
is true.
post-cu jedi are at best very slightly better then post-cu BHs. foi about 1m (the cost of manufacture) a post cu BH can get a sac and speed capped weapon that has a higher base DPS then what a jedi will have if he spends 30m and about 50 hours trying to loot crystals. maybe if premium/flawless crystals/pearls return then jedi will return to alpha class, but for a new toon, jedi is not at any level worth the effort to get it.
i dont think BH will get any significant nerfs though.bounty huntershave one advantage over jedi (well at least until the last nerf NBH loot cries.) that is every BH is a BH, while some jedi have powers and will add their voice to the nerfsabers cries, some are enhancers and will add to the nerf defender cries, etc.
note i am specifying post-cu jedi, because pre-cu saber weilders are still much better then BHs all else being equal.
Message Edited by alephen on 09-03-2005 08:14 PM
Eleutherios wrote:
Maybe if the newer Jedi had spent more time learning their template instead of AFK grinding on Feral Wookiees, they might be able to handle Bounty Hunters. Until then though, they should stop their whining.
My goodness what a great response QFE
The fact that you think DPS is a good measure of a weapon's strength tells me that you know SQUAT about PvP. Minimum damage. Minimum damage. Minimum damage. Burn that into your head. It is minimum damage combined with weapon speed that is a measure of how good your weapon is. You people who know absolutely nothing about PvP have no right to complain about bounty hunter vs. Jedi strength.
alephen wrote:
is true.
post-cu jedi are at best very slightly better then post-cu BHs. foi about 1m (the cost of manufacture) a post cu BH can get a sac and speed capped weapon that has a higher base DPS then what a jedi will have if he spends 30m and about 50 hours trying to loot crystals. maybe if premium/flawless crystals/pearls return then jedi will return to alpha class, but for a new toon, jedi is not at any level worth the effort to get it.
Nastypope wrote:
I only positng about this beacuse yet another memeber of my guild has gone BH. They seems to have two reason1) they seem to think BH is new alpha class since Jedi has been nerfed so much and takes so long to get compared to BH. 2) Since loot is all messed up and BH seems the only way to get it after the AFK'ers got the caves nerfed etc. So what you guys think will all these new BH cause the nerfing of BH that Jedi has had to endure? Theinfo soe but out says that BH is mostplayed prof in the game and people cry about Jedi robes you cant go anywhere with out see someone with a BH tagand they were not to common in the movies themselves. To be clear I am not calling for a BH nerf just wondering what you all think.
We may not be a true "alpha class", but outside of jedi, this is as close as you can get. We have the best combination of defense and offense in the game (excluding jedi professions) with plenty of skill points lef over. BH/Pistoleer is fantastic in PvE, BH/Carbineer is great in PvP, BH/Rifleman is great vs. Jedi. And we are now the kings of all loot.
I don't see BH getting a nerf anytime soon, for two basic reasons:
- The only member of the SOE Dev. team that is actually known to play the game, plays as a Bounty Hunter. This individual is responsible for the new BH loot system, and probably for such things as beefing up Duelist stance, and increasing the cost of jedi healingas well. It wouldn't surprise me if he came up with the idea of making all of BH's speed and accuracy "general" so that it will pair so nicely with any other ranged profession. As long Blixtev, continues to play a BH, I only see the profession getting stronger.
- In SWG the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and since the beginning of SWG (back when there were no jedi) BHs have always been the
biggest whinerssqueakiest wheels (with the possible exception of wookiees back when they weren't allowed to wear armor). Once Jedi came along, our squeeks were temporarily eclipsed by their /forceWhine skill, but I like to think that we have managed to hold our own and still make plenty of noise. I am sure the oil will keep coming our way.
Message Edited by Kelb on 09-03-2005 07:41 PM
- The only member of the SOE Dev. team that is actually known to play the game, plays as a Bounty Hunter. This individual is responsible for the new BH loot system, and probably for such things as beefing up Duelist stance as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he came up with the idea of making all of BH's speed and accuracy "general" so that it will pair so nicely with any other ranged profession. As long Blixtev, continues to play a BH, I only see the profession getting stronger.
OhBuggah wrote:
The fact that you think DPS is a good measure of a weapon's strength tells me that you know SQUAT about PvP. Minimum damage. Minimum damage. Minimum damage. Burn that into your head. It is minimum damage combined with weapon speed that is a measure of how good your weapon is. You people who know absolutely nothing about PvP have no right to complain about bounty hunter vs. Jedi strength.
alephen wrote:
is true.
post-cu jedi are at best very slightly better then post-cu BHs. foi about 1m (the cost of manufacture) a post cu BH can get a sac and speed capped weapon that has a higher base DPS then what a jedi will have if he spends 30m and about 50 hours trying to loot crystals. maybe if premium/flawless crystals/pearls return then jedi will return to alpha class, but for a new toon, jedi is not at any level worth the effort to get it.
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Message Edited by alephen on 09-03-2005 08:58 PM
Sundal wrote:
If you ask me other combinations are a lot stronger.
Riflemen/MCM could probably take on a BH/MCM. TKM/Doc isnt bad either. Just seems to be a lot of people who like the idea of hunting another player making BH popular.
Utilizing MBH/MCM/Rifleman4xxx I can guarrantee you I could beat 90 percent of the people with this template. Why? They lack the defenses I'll have and I can easily match there speed with Attachments and FS Ranged Speed line. Also don't forget I have a knockdown AND Advanced Critical that will absolutely wreak havoc when I fire it from my Critcal slice ALR.
Simple solution for that problem - kite. Or how about KD, Paralyze, debuff mind, start running while applying my two DOTs plus Torso Shot. All the while chip away at their life and laugh as their mind quickly vanishes.