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Thread: The Good and The Bad about Pub 20
Spookibus wrote:Once they get an idea in their heads there's no shifting it.
You should have said "Tiny little rat brains" to describe them. I think that suits them better. Other than that I cant really offer any constructive criticism because all I have offered or anyone else for that matter is rarley ever used by the devs. Throw the good ideas to the wayside and bring in the crappy ones.
Corvett wrote:
I love this patch. The ONLY reason why someone would want a name is to grief someone or to pick on low level Jedi only. This patch will seperate the Noobs from the skilled players. Bh's already get content from other players and the ONLY proffession who get this and have the Luxury of this without any risk! Not to mention now the Jedi is FORCED to fight now no matter what unless heis already in a private house.
Bh's are also the strongest ELITE proffession and Jedi have been nerfed down to an ELITE class with just a few skills that allow them to get away. Non-Jedi now out damage and out heal Jedi I mean come on people lets learn to beat them. I watch Non-Jedi kill Jedi easily now everyday. If you get beat by a jedi now you need to step back and take a look at your template cause they are no better than a normal melee class now and a melee class should not lose to a ranged person very often.
Jedi knew they would be hunted when they became Jedi, well Bh's knew it would be tough in doing so. Everyone knew this so all of you need to stop whineing or play a different profession.
Corvett wrote:
I love this patch. The ONLY reason why someone would want a name is to grief someone or to pick on low level Jedi only. This patch will seperate the Noobs from the skilled players. Bh's already get content from other players and the ONLY proffession who get this and have the Luxury of this without any risk! Not to mention now the Jedi is FORCED to fight now no matter what unless heis already in a private house.
Bh's are also the strongest ELITE proffession and Jedi have been nerfed down to an ELITE class with just a few skills that allow them to get away. Non-Jedi now out damage and out heal Jedi I mean come on people lets learn to beat them. I watch Non-Jedi kill Jedi easily now everyday. If you get beat by a jedi now you need to step back and take a look at your template cause they are no better than a normal melee class now and a melee class should not lose to a ranged person very often.
Jedi knew they would be hunted when they became Jedi, well Bh's knew it would be tough in doing so. Everyone knew this so all of you need to stop whineing or play a different profession.
you're wrong, i never use player names for griefing purposes, in fact its used for more good than harm
by being able to view player names i can avoid wasting time on attacking fellow faction members, guild mates or buddies
some may consider not attacking your friends as unfair and attacking those you dislike as unfair as well
well in my opinion... if you're a cool guy and make lots of friends then your game expierence will alwyas be better
whether its involving player bounties or anything else.... if you're a huge cocky ass then you deserved to have your mission
pulled over and over, i don't think it is griefing, i think its simply the mechanics of this game and any mmo
if somebody (paticuaraly low level) is getting their mission pulled over and over by the same person it doesn't mean you need
to prevent players from seeing who they are going to fight, it simply means that after a bh is successful or unsuccessful the mission
should be removed for a period of time (easy simple solution) true there are people out there who get off on hunting low-levels
but i'm quite sure there's even more people out there extremeley bored with 1 minute fights and easy kills and avoid low level jedis in order to
experience more of a challenge, this is the attitude of me and i'm sure any other well expierenced bh out there
by taking out the names of jedi you eliminate some of the excitement and benefits that come out of knowing your mark
including picking marks who are particularly known as difficult to defeat or those who play key roles in gcw
or those have high player bounties on their head
if any jedi out there who is low level honestly thinks that this system is going to benefit them is definetely wrong, cause if this system does go through my attitude and the attitude i'm sure of many other bhs is that no matter how low you are or who you are, if i'm going to spend time pulling your mission and i end up finding you i'm going to kill you, only people who are going to benefit out of this are full templates and well all know damn well they need no more benefits....
Domonique wrote:
Corvett wrote:
I love this patch. The ONLY reason why someone would want a name is to grief someone or to pick on low level Jedi only. This patch will seperate the Noobs from the skilled players. Bh's already get content from other players and the ONLY proffession who get this and have the Luxury of this without any risk! Not to mention now the Jedi is FORCED to fight now no matter what unless heis already in a private house.
Bh's are also the strongest ELITE proffession and Jedi have been nerfed down to an ELITE class with just a few skills that allow them to get away. Non-Jedi now out damage and out heal Jedi I mean come on people lets learn to beat them. I watch Non-Jedi kill Jedi easily now everyday. If you get beat by a jedi now you need to step back and take a look at your template cause they are no better than a normal melee class now and a melee class should not lose to a ranged person very often.
Jedi knew they would be hunted when they became Jedi, well Bh's knew it would be tough in doing so. Everyone knew this so all of you need to stop whineing or play a different profession.
you're wrong, i never use player names for griefing purposes, in fact its used for more good than harm
Ya, many Bounty Hunters use names for different reasons.
- Hunting Player Character placed Bounties.
- Not Hunting Known Jedi Friends.
- Not Hunting Jedi under 175k or something similar because they don't like wasting time on Padawans who drop in two hits..
- Not Hunting Jedi who always seem to be on Kashsyyk.
- Not Hunting a Jedi they've already killed in hopes of adding another dead Jedi to their list of names.
- Not Hunting Jedi who always ran away to a house, and/or Jedi who always seemed to be hiding in a house.
- Not Hunting Jedi who you were paid weekly not to hunt. ( 
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- Hunting Jedi that constantly show off their saber skills in major cities.
- Hunting Jedi you know will give you a challenge when you're in the mood for a good fight.
...List goes on.
Message Edited by DekkoFett on 07-07-2005 09:25 AM
DekkoFett wrote:
Ya, many Bounty Hunters use names for different reasons.
- Hunting Player Character placed Bounties.
- Not Hunting Known Jedi Friends.
- Not Hunting Jedi under 175k or something similar because they don't like wasting time on Padawans who drop in two hits..
- Not Hunting Jedi who always seem to be on Kashsyyk.
- Not Hunting a Jedi they've already killed in hopes of adding another dead Jedi to their list of names.
- Not Hunting Jedi who always ran away to a house, and/or Jedi who always seemed to be hiding in a house.
- Not Hunting Jedi who you were paid weekly not to hunt. (
- Hunting Jedi that constantly show off their saber skills in major cities.
- Hunting Jedi you know will give you a challenge when you're in the mood for a good fight.
...List goes on.
Message Edited by DekkoFett on 07-07-2005 09:25 AM
I agree with you on every point.
I don't hunt Jedi to grief them, but I do like to try and go after the starport-duelling ones.
But after this patch, the ones that don't do that won't be on the terms nearly as much anyway.
Taken as a whole, as much as I hate to say it, I think this patch has more good than bad in it. There are some things that irritate me royally, but if we can get them out of the Ryatt Trail (instant visibility) to me that would be worth the trade offs.
I dunno really. Being yet another BH/Jedi I'm not sure how this is really going to play out, but I'm sure enough people will whine about it once it goes live that it will be tweaked a few times.
I don't like the mission terminal setup simply because now I don't know if my mark is a friend/guildie and frankly is going to just waste my time and money.
I like mission decay-only people mad about this are the ones holding their own missions. If you cant kill a mark in 3 days or less you need a new profession anyway lol.
Group Vis - From my Jedi standpoint I'm happy. From my BH standpoint it is uncertain at this point. My feeling is that way less Jedi will hunt on Kashyyk and instead will hunt on their respective favorite planet with their guildies. Hence less Kashyyk droid issues, but less bounties too - at least logically thinking that is what would make sense. But then there's never a shortage of stupid people that don't care about vis - not to mention even with the group vis changes and mission terminal changes, for some reason my gut tells me there won't be any shortage of Jedi to hunt. It will probably be all the full templates....
I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it really pans out live.
Spookibus wrote:
The Bad: Possibility of hiding on Kashyyyk for all eternity.
The Good: With group vis removed, many will choose to avoid visibility altogether and grind on outer Dantooine. If the LOS exploit is ever fixed, it will be even less safe.
- A Group of Friends are all Jedi.
- They Group togehter at a secluded spot on Kash or anywhere fot that matter.
- They AFK grind for 8 hours while they are at work.
- They come home train a few skills and head back to their spot.
- They AFK grind all night while they sleep
- They wake up, wait for server resart, train, and AFK grind all day while at work.
Do you see what I am getting at? They can master the Jedi Prof in 2-3 days without even seeing a Boutny Hunter. Being in the group they gain 0 visibility from each other. I definatley have a problem with this.
Geaux Darkcloud 
Some of you may not but the problem is Many Many Many do and all the hate threads have caused it.
Spookibus wrote:
DekkoFett wrote:
Ya, many Bounty Hunters use names for different reasons.
- Hunting Player Character placed Bounties.
- Not Hunting Known Jedi Friends.
- Not Hunting Jedi under 175k or something similar because they don't like wasting time on Padawans who drop in two hits..
- Not Hunting Jedi who always seem to be on Kashsyyk.
- Not Hunting a Jedi they've already killed in hopes of adding another dead Jedi to their list of names.
- Not Hunting Jedi who always ran away to a house, and/or Jedi who always seemed to be hiding in a house.
- Not Hunting Jedi who you were paid weekly not to hunt. (
- Hunting Jedi that constantly show off their saber skills in major cities.
- Hunting Jedi you know will give you a challenge when you're in the mood for a good fight.
...List goes on.
Message Edited by DekkoFett on 07-07-2005 09:25 AM
I agree with you on every point.
I don't hunt Jedi to grief them, but I do like to try and go after the starport-duelling ones.
But after this patch, the ones that don't do that won't be on the terms nearly as much anyway.
Taken as a whole, as much as I hate to say it, I think this patch has more good than bad in it. There are some things that irritate me royally, but if we can get them out of the Ryatt Trail (instant visibility) to me that would be worth the trade offs.
Mosuger wrote:
I like mission decay-only people mad about this are the ones holding their own missions. If you cant kill a mark in 3 days or less you need a new profession anyway lol.
Not true. I like to study my Jedi for a few days (the hunt is what I like), get to know their habits. This completely removes the aspect of RPing (mmoRPG remember) an assassin. Along with removing names and payouts it's enough to make me quit. I utterly agree with faction on the terms, and MBH as the Jedi hunter though.
This makes absolutely no sense at all. It's simply fawning over theJedi whiners.
Agreed, taking the same Jedi mission again and again once you've killed them shouldn't be possible. But surely there is a better way of fixing it than this cak-handed rubbish.
I see there is an assassin class in Matrix Online. Although now SOE have bought that it's not going to be worth it.
Message Edited by DathylBran on 07-07-2005 05:04 PM
Corvett wrote:
I love this patch. The ONLY reason why someone would want a name is to grief someone or to pick on low level Jedi only. This patch will seperate the Noobs from the skilled players. Bh's already get content from other players and the ONLY proffession who get this and have the Luxury of this without any risk! Not to mention now the Jedi is FORCED to fight now no matter what unless heis already in a private house.
No, this isn't theONLY reason. I formed very good sparring relationships with a number of jedi on my server and now I can't go in and pick out their missions. Not every BH vs. Jedi relationship is BAD as you would assume on these message boards. Not every Jedi feels that their profession is forced to PvP. Some jedi actually like being hunted and enjoy that part of the game. This takes a significant part of the game away from me and the Jedi that I role-play with.
Bh's are also the strongest ELITE proffession and Jedi have been nerfed down to an ELITE class with just a few skills that allow them to get away. Non-Jedi now out damage and out heal Jedi I mean come on people lets learn to beat them. I watch Non-Jedi kill Jedi easily now everyday. If you get beat by a jedi now you need to step back and take a look at your template cause they are no better than a normal melee class now and a melee class should not lose to a ranged person very often.
No. Max and close to max template Jedi are still more powerful than the strongest ELITE profession. Please don't mix a noob jedi or E-baydi with a strong template jedi, knight or someone who actually knows how to play their character. I fight full template and knight jedi all the time. Don't insult them by acting like they are just and ELITE profession.
Jedi knew they would be hunted when they became Jedi, well Bh's knew it would be tough in doing so. Everyone knew this so all of you need to stop whineing or play a different profession.
I agree with this. More constructive posts and less destructive comments like your previous two points.
Makkaio wrote:
Corvett wrote:
I love this patch. The ONLY reason why someone would want a name is to grief someone or to pick on low level Jedi only. This patch will seperate the Noobs from the skilled players. Bh's already get content from other players and the ONLY proffession who get this and have the Luxury of this without any risk! Not to mention now the Jedi is FORCED to fight now no matter what unless heis already in a private house.
No, this isn't theONLY reason. I formed very good sparring relationships with a number of jedi on my server and now I can't go in and pick out their missions. Not every BH vs. Jedi relationship is BAD as you would assume on these message boards. Not every Jedi feels that their profession is forced to PvP. Some jedi actually like being hunted and enjoy that part of the game. This takes a significant part of the game away from me and the Jedi that I role-play with.
You are among the minority. These boards are full of hate. Bh's are their own worse enemy. Any given time there are boards here claiming someone is cheating or needs to be nerfed or whatever.
Bh's are also the strongest ELITE proffession and Jedi have been nerfed down to an ELITE class with just a few skills that allow them to get away. Non-Jedi now out damage and out heal Jedi I mean come on people lets learn to beat them. I watch Non-Jedi kill Jedi easily now everyday. If you get beat by a jedi now you need to step back and take a look at your template cause they are no better than a normal melee class now and a melee class should not lose to a ranged person very often.
No. Max and close to max template Jedi are still more powerful than the strongest ELITE profession. Please don't mix a noob jedi or E-baydi with a strong template jedi, knight or someone who actually knows how to play their character. I fight full template and knight jedi all the time. Don't insult them by acting like they are just and ELITE profession.
Rifleman do more damage and so does Swordsman. CM's can heal waaaayyy better than any jedi can easily. Many many Bh's take out experienced jedi everyday on my server.
Jedi knew they would be hunted when they became Jedi, well Bh's knew it would be tough in doing so. Everyone knew this so all of you need to stop whineing or play a different profession.
I agree with this. More constructive posts and less destructive comments like your previous two points.
I am glad you agree here but you need to think thru your posts as well. Bh's do alot of whineing and just as much as Jedi. Look at these boards any given day and you will see threads full of hate, threads claiming jedi should be nerfed, or jedi are cheating and so forth. I have been a MBh way back when I had to walk to my targets and a jedi since BEFORE patch 10 as well. I know and see both sides.