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Thread: Hunted first jedi in about a month, like to share my disappointing experience
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LordMarr
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:04 pm
#1
Well i been doing other things and quests, alot of PVE. well i decided last night to hunt a jedi. I used to hunt jedi alot and i have countless kills so i am pretty experienced. Well i took a mission and my mark is on endor, i found em in the cloning station and he wasnt moving, went to clone my self and check em out. He was moving, he had no buffs, nothing. So i guess he must of died at the DWB.
Now i know that this jedi is an old school pre-pub 9 jedi, thats how far back he goes and so i know he hasan awesome pre-CU pearl saber. So i banking that he is AFK and open up on em in the cloning station. KD attack -100 damage, critical shot -358 damage, torso shot -136 damage. Well he gets up and i know when that happened i was in big trouble, he KDs me down and wails on me. He is doing 900 to 1200 damage each hit. all im doing is running out of the cloning station and healing myself. He runs after me and i try to do a stopping shot to keep em away from me. He saber throws me before i could and im incapped.
I didnt expect to win this fight if he wasn't AFK but if im doing 100 to 350 damage to a jedi and he can do 900 to 1200 a hit. Obviously a Master Defender andMaster Lightsaber. But the damage output is so way out of whack that no one could stand a chance. Im using a damaged capped pistol with decent min damage. I have had this experience many times before dying in 10 seconds to a jedi with a pre-cu saber so im not new to it.
My question isthis 1.5 times more powerful? My math tells me he is more like 3 or 4 times more powerful if im just doing critical shots.
Well i have fought a few post CU jedi and the fights last alot longer and usually the outcome is more favorable. The devs need to tone down those old pearls, i cant imagine the pain a new jedi would have when he pvps an old school jedi with a saber like that.
Thats my experience, im not giving up completely, just dropping those missions on old jedi.
Lexis
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:09 pm
#2
The devs need to tone down those old pearls, i cant imagine the pain a new jedi would have when he pvps an old school jedi with a saber like that.
Why nerf an all n all true veteran of the game? You knew before hand he was pre pub 9 so why attack him knowing the outcome before hand lol....yes I know you thought he was afk, and i doubt anyone would have not taken a crack at an afk jedi in your defense...View it this way, when frs comes back out how do you think post pub 9 jedi will feel about having to go up against one of these guys lol...there going to be just as discouraged as you have stated...
Message Edited by Lexis on 08-30-2005 05:10 PM
entespia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:11 pm
#3
I feel your pain.
Tonight I duel a guildie just for testing.
Max damage i could get was 200 on him. he didnt hit me once and he was unbuffed.
my proton carb is not so great, but me thinks it used to be better about 1 week ago when i was hunting Full temps and winning 40% of the fights.
They have changed something, or is it me? Did anyone see that black cat go by twice?
*opps wong film/game*
nateccs
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:28 pm
#4
You took the risk assuming he was afk and it didn't pan out
If he was hitting you for over 1k then most likely he armor broke you first. Get your armor sliced for armor break resist. And stay> 35m range of jedi's if you want to live 
LordMarr
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:47 pm
#5
Well the Pre-CU pearls should be good, im mean they are premiums or flawless. But the 900 to 1200 damage is bit more like an "I win" Buitton. I think he hit meabout 7 times total. I healed 2 times with bacta shot for about 900 damage eachand one stim for 1100 damage. so that is about 2900 damage healed in about 15 seconds i believe.My Health was food/spiced up to 3300 ( im a mon cal 2900 base health). He had force infusion going so the 550 damage i did in about 5 seconds of my opening attack was completely negated in about 8 seconds.
If the old lightsabers can whip instant death out why can't my old Pre-CU guns do the same, i dont think i know anyone that had a old Pre CU weopon the converted as good.
HeartlessHunter
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:51 pm
#6
Tough break man, here you thought you were going to take him, but his afk style seemed to having taken you. I have had that happen to me several times. You will get em next time.
SomeUser
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:52 pm
#7
LordMarr wrote:
Well i been doing other things and quests, alot of PVE. well i decided last night to hunt a jedi. I used to hunt jedi alot and i have countless kills so i am pretty experienced. Well i took a mission and my mark is on endor, i found em in the cloning station and he wasnt moving, went to clone my self and check em out. He was moving, he had no buffs, nothing. So i guess he must of died at the DWB.
Now i know that this jedi is an old school pre-pub 9 jedi, thats how far back he goes and so i know he hasan awesome pre-CU pearl saber. So i banking that he is AFK and open up on em in the cloning station. KD attack -100 damage, critical shot -358 damage, torso shot -136 damage. Well he gets up and i know when that happened i was in big trouble, he KDs me down and wails on me. He is doing 900 to 1200 damage each hit. all im doing is running out of the cloning station and healing myself. He runs after me and i try to do a stopping shot to keep em away from me. He saber throws me before i could and im incapped.
I didnt expect to win this fight if he wasn't AFK but if im doing 100 to 350 damage to a jedi and he can do 900 to 1200 a hit. Obviously a Master Defender andMaster Lightsaber. But the damage output is so way out of whack that no one could stand a chance. Im using a damaged capped pistol with decent min damage. I have had this experience many times before dying in 10 seconds to a jedi with a pre-cu saber so im not new to it.
My question isthis 1.5 times more powerful? My math tells me he is more like 3 or 4 times more powerful if im just doing critical shots.
Well i have fought a few post CU jedi and the fights last alot longer and usually the outcome is more favorable. The devs need to tone down those old pearls, i cant imagine the pain a new jedi would have when he pvps an old school jedi with a saber like that.
Thats my experience, im not giving up completely, just dropping those missions on old jedi.
I feel ya man. As Nateccs said, you got to armor break slice that armor... Also, were you wearing any cyborg arms? If a Jedi hits an arm the damage goes right through.
Old School Jedi are tough and I personally think the crystals need to be tuned down as well... Atleast make it so only Knights and Masters can hit like that when the trials come back out... Padawans hitting like that is insane.... That being said, you did make many crucial mistakes.
1st You assumed he was ADK which you should never do.
2nd you seemed to have engaged him in close quarters at close range (big no no)
Did you eat all the "right food"? Have Duelist Stance running? How about a health crystal buff and/or a doctor buff? PuP damage or SAC on the damaged/SAC capped gun?
You probably wouldnt have won even if you did everything right but you really should have opened with a bomb droid, root, KD, followed by a quick draw/crit shot macro....
Vezek
strictlybusiness
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:09 pm
#8
LordMarr wrote:
Well the Pre-CU pearls should be good, im mean they are premiums or flawless. But the 900 to 1200 damage is bit more like an "I win" Buitton. I think he hit meabout 7 times total. I healed 2 times with bacta shot for about 900 damage eachand one stim for 1100 damage. so that is about 2900 damage healed in about 15 seconds i believe.My Health was food/spiced up to 3300 ( im a mon cal 2900 base health). He had force infusion going so the 550 damage i did in about 5 seconds of my opening attack was completely negated in about 8 seconds.
If the old lightsabers can whip instant death out why can't my old Pre-CU guns do the same, i dont think i know anyone that had a old Pre CU weopon the converted as good.
look at combat log again..the first hit was armor break...I can almost guarantee that..then KD then 900-1200 damage..well within the norm...thats exactly what is supposed to happen when a ranged guy engages a melee in close qtrs.
yurylightmist
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:12 pm
#9
if you dont have a good saber pvping you might as wel not, cuz it sucks. i dont have the best saber but ive seen jedi with 800 max dmg and BH and Jedi dont stand up to them. /shrug. you guys have your defense against it tho. 75% AB resis armor and 6000+ Energy armor. Only think that really makes BH not win against me is Force Armor.
LordMarr
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:58 pm
#10
Damn, i feel like a fool for posting this. I forgot to wear my 8000 energy 75% armor break sliced armor. I think it would have shaved off about 300 or 400 damage from his attacks. I dont know it would have changed the outcome but i think it would allowed me to last about a minute or so.
I been doing PVE (not those pathetic NPC missions) in composite for a month now, took a break from the jedi killing and just must be very out of practice. I thought of everything i needed to do but forgot to change my armor. Although its a little discouraging that i can do 100 to 350 damage to amaster defender but illdeal with it.
Thanks for putting me straight!
LGandalf
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:31 am
#11
LordMarr wrote:OMG, I attacked AFK jedi and he dared to fight back, that's not fair, I demand "I Win!" button!
Fixed for ya.
Davep122
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:51 am
#13
I don't think they should nerf the pre pearl sabers... we are not supposed to be able to take every jedi we come across, it makes it more fun if we don't know what we are up against. I don't think the game should be too balanced, it gets boring. If I get taken out by a Jedi like that I just say wow, he's powerful and move on. Think of it as you went up against a real master, RP a bit. There are only a handful of pre CU Jedi compared to the amount of Jedi these days, you probably wont come across that situation again for a while.
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