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Nathanielstarr wrote:

Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.

I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?

I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.

Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?

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Opie76 wrote:

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.

I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?

I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.

Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?

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A new winner for stupidest comment of the day. The Devs purposely upped force regen because creatures hit alot harder now and we tend to do more combat moves to kill the same creature now as we did PRE-CU.

Guess you should just learn some new tactics.

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So the devs intended to make Jedi invulnerable by just standing there because animals hit harder and you don't find that flawed? Oh you said "we tend to do more combat moves" so you're a jedi. You probably use this tactic and think it makes you LEET.

Seriously Mr. jedi come kill me.

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself in the ryyat trails. I run them out of force and mind because I has wookies doing all the work for me. I actually fought while they were afk. I move, change up my attacks and put little thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?

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yeah this isn't new. I got a channel macro anyhow, but if I start running low pop a synsteak and just stand there and take it, use stims so I won't waste force on /forceheal, use a couple channels and good to go. Nothing new, or gamebreaking, just using our other options. And since I am not MDEF, but use ForceArmor, force is even more precious to me.

Heck, if a bh attacks while I'm hunting (and even then I try to keep my force high) yeah he gets first strike.. but pop a steak and use a couple stims, along with the couple channels, and then we start to fight on my terms. up to you to keep fighting at that point though, as if you cannot break down our health while we are sitting there, especially if said jedi has channel, might wanna consider a new weapon.

Message Edited by Maxil on 09-28-2005 01:00 AM

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.

I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?

I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.

Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?

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a MLS /prob. MDEF (Auro is NO sign for Mdef) should do that tactic only, if he knows that he cant beat you with his saber, so he regens his force, mind and action, waiting for you loosing your buffs and attack then.

As always: Jedi are NOT your CONTENT and they can chosse to fight or not. If they would gain some rewards killing you, you would see more Jedi fighting you straight ahead.

You say, this tactic is mindless? But killing a Jedi, when he is in a spingroup as tank with 10 aggro mobs on him is a better tactic? Sorry the Jedi who let you stand there and not fighting back is showing you a good lessen:

FOTM Templates are no I-Win-Button... if you cant do enough damage, rethink your equipment, your skills and your attitude

Taking a few seconds is one thing. Taking an hour is another. If I stood there for a minute I would be dead. The only way I could counteract this is to use dots. But I don't want to be a MCM.

No , I'm basically commenting the fact the Devs upped force regen a few months ago. Pre Cu it took just a few hits to kill a creature that now takes much longer. We use more force, thus it was required to up the force regeneration rate. I'm no MLS/MDEF either.

My alt is BH for the loot and other alt is chef. I actually play my other 2 characters twice as much as my jedi because players complaining about Jedi and the nerfs that followed made jedi no longer a fabled "Alpha" class. We are weaker than alot of the FOTM templates, but you guys will never admit that. LOL

also take into account natural force regin isn't that much, like 5 force every 10 secs. Channel gives me prolly about 15% of my total force back, but lowers my max health by about 300 points for about a minute or so

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BooleScaric wrote:

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.

I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?

I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.

Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?

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a MLS /prob. MDEF (Auro is NO sign for Mdef) should do that tactic only, if he knows that he cant beat you with his saber, so he regens his force, mind and action, waiting for you loosing your buffs and attack then.

As always: Jedi are NOT your CONTENT and they can chosse to fight or not. If they would gain some rewards killing you, you would see more Jedi fighting you straight ahead.

You say, this tactic is mindless? But killing a Jedi, when he is in a spingroup as tank with 10 aggro mobs on him is a better tactic? Sorry the Jedi who let you stand there and not fighting back is showing you a good lessen:

FOTM Templates are no I-Win-Button... if you cant do enough damage, rethink your equipment, your skills and your attitude

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I fought this jedi straight up. He was standing with his friends not afk no animals around. I had a fwg 966 damage with a 34% damage powerup giving it about 510 min damage and only -.2 speed. My buffs ran out and he tried again but got whooped then went back to this tactic. Jedi have too many I dont lose buttons and are really just pathetic. Most of these guys if they were regular toons would not be able to hack pvp. They say get new tactics well I think the Jedi should actually have to use tactics not rely on blocking and regening force and mind. It's just stupid.

obviously he was hacking pvp, as you couldn't kill him. As it's been said, we have more dependancies than a regular toon, and if you can't beat his natural force regin then you're doing something wrong.. Not every bh temp can take down a jedi in a square fight anyway.. I know it's repetitve, but as your own comrads would tell you, it's all about when to attack

What's the difference in this and a combat medic who uses paralyze to let his/her mind regen. Let me guess, that's a lame tactic as well. How aboutsomeone who roots and runs to 50m for a quick regen. Jedi pull from 4 pools during combat, how they manage those pools are up to the Jedi. If I cant do enough damage to put a BH in a healing loop, I'll do everything I can to conserve force till his buffs drop. If you cant kill me in that time, tough luck.