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Thread: thoughts on force cloak

warmaster_670
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:58 pm
#1

i was reading the discription for force cloak earlier and had an idea and would like to know if anyones tried it. it say it has a considerable force drain if there are multiple npcs/players in the area, so why not bring 3or 4 or even 5 friends with u to drain there force if they go to use it. ive never hunted a jedi but would like to have ur opinions on whether this would be effective



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Rinia
Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:01 pm
#2

its a considerable drain if there are lots of people around.



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JaymzRiken
Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:23 am
#3

don't worry bout cloak, its due for a nerf, everyone knows it. Even the jedi.


Powers defense: "Sure nerf the only thing we have"


Sorry but you know its not being used as the devs want it, they want it to be a first strike option, not a cheap getaway. It will be nerfed. So instead of defending it, how about keep working towards getting other part sof Powers boosted. IE: damage output, more states, etc. Longer range (i think powers should be the Rifles of jedi) Also a "disarm" style move would be good for powers (pulling the weapon out of their hand with the force)




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Eskie
Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:58 am
#4



JaymzRiken wrote:
(...)Sorry but you know its not being used as the devs want it, they want it to be a first strike option, not a cheap getaway.(...)



Please back it up with a link. As far as I am concerned I see Powers as a hit and run discipline due to no defenses, but stealth and first strike ability. Decloak, do some damage, and hope you can cloak again before your opponents realize where you are and run the 12m from 32m to 20m to prevent you from cloaking.



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truewildman
Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:03 am
#5

Best thing to do is to prevent them from cloaking in the first place. They have to be 30m from you to cloak. Root, snare, and KD to keep em close.


Don't snare if you're rooted, don't be so quick to use KD (time it for, say, when you're rooted), root them if they try to root and run. Or root then daze.


Lots of options to keep them close.







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Eskie
Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:06 am
#6


truewildman wrote:

Best thing to do is to prevent them from cloaking in the first place. They have to be 30m from you to cloak. Root, snare, and KD to keep em close.

Don't snare if you're rooted, don't be so quick to use KD (time it for, say, when you're rooted), root them if they try to root and run. Or root then daze.

Lots of options to keep them close.





Exactly - you need serious crowd control abilities to kill a cloaker, sacrificing either offense or defense for it, but that doesnt matter because the cloaker is lacking either offense or defense also.
But stay within 20m of the cloaker or he will cloak anyway

Message Edited by Eskie on 08-21-2005 03:07 PM



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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:10 am
#7

yeah, it's 20m for cloak range, NOT 32 meters.



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Orthell
Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:41 am
#8



warmaster_670 wrote:
i was reading the discription for force cloak earlier and had an idea and would like to know if anyones tried it. it say it has a considerable force drain if there are multiple npcs/players in the area, so why not bring 3or 4 or even 5 friends with u to drain there force if they go to use it. ive never hunted a jedi but would like to have ur opinions on whether this would be effective





Yes, a cloaked Jedi cannot move and will stand there while you brind in friends, lol. Waste of time, won't do you any good.







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Orthell
Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:44 am
#9



JaymzRiken wrote:
don't worry bout cloak, its due for a nerf, everyone knows it. Even the jedi.
Powers defense: "Sure nerf the only thing we have"
Sorry but you know its not being used as the devs want it, they want it to be a first strike option, not a cheap getaway. It will be nerfed. So instead of defending it, how about keep working towards getting other part sof Powers boosted. IE: damage output, more states, etc. Longer range (i think powers should be the Rifles of jedi) Also a "disarm" style move would be good for powers (pulling the weapon out of their hand with the force)





It can't be nerfed anymore without making it useless. So many BH think it's uber, IT'S NOT, GET OVER IT! If it's not cloak it's forcerun or something else. I don't need cloak to escape a BH, plus I started DBing them again anyways, took down a MBH/MCM in less than 2 minutes.

Once again, CLOAK ISN'T UBER. It cannot be nerfed anymore without making it worthless.







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MasterGettingOnTerms
Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:45 am
#10


double post

Message Edited by MasterGettingOnTerms on 08-21-2005 10:46 AM



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Fugitron
Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:51 am
#11

Cloak is never the issue. It IMO is supposed to be used as an escape move or quick strike ability. The people with cloak do gimp themselves on something else, so you got to realize they cloak cause they have to in order to survive, not just to annoy you.


EDIT: Also, if you are a good BH you can use tactics to get around/prevent them from being cloaked or using cloak.

Message Edited by Fugitron on 08-21-2005 10:52 AM








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Nathanielstarr
Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:29 am
#12

If the FRS involves any sort of Jedi vs Jedi fighting cloak will get nerfed very quickly.
Eskie
Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:32 am
#13



Nathanielstarr wrote:
If the FRS involves any sort of Jedi vs Jedi fighting cloak will get nerfed very quickly.




No, but people will choose to drop Force Cloak unless they are Master Force Wielder since it gimps either offense or defense, not allowing to kill tank templates.



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