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Thread: Bio-Engineering CU Testing : Testers needed
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ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:14 am
#1
Hi folks,
Looks like we have a handful of novice bio-engineers busily testing on TC now. That is GREAT! I know what kind of sacrifice it is to do that, so I thank you in advance.
Ok, so lets coordinate. First off, despite the temptations to run off to dantooine, endor and dathomir like we do on "live", we really do need to stay away from those planets for now. Any findings we make can be quickly dismissed by the devs since they have told us that they've only "balanced" the pets on (from memory): tatooine, naboo, corellia, rori, and talus. The list of "balanced" planets comes up when you login to TC.
Ok, so let's try to coordinate our efforts. I think if we work together we can cover more ground.
Here's what I think needs testing (for pets since we can't test tissues or meds yet):
BE advancement:
- IsBE advancement (the dna sampling line) substantially tougher or easier than on live?
BE pet crafting:
- Determining CL: what factors seem to be affecting the CL of the creature now?
- Which of those (now obsolete) stats on the pet affect the pets level or the pets performance?
- resistances?
- armor?
- to-hit?
- Mind/Action "HAM" on pets: does it affect CL?
- How balanced are bio-engineered pets stats relative to wild animals?
Gathering DNA:
How is the dna gathering process for:
- low level dna
- mid level dna
- high level dna
How viable is it to have:
- no combat skills
- light combat skills
- heavy combat skills
How about masked scent:
- no masked scent
- exploration 2
- exploration 4
- master scout
What affects does various types of cerfitied armor have on dna gathering abilities?
Combat Viability of Pets:
What affect do pets have on:
- Group combat level (pet grouped vs ungrouped)
- Ability to get combat missions (pet grouped vs ungrouped)
How useful are pets to:
- non-ch w/no combat skills
- non-ch with low-level combat skills
- non-ch with mid-level combat skills
- non-ch with high-level combat skills
- low level ch with no combat skills
- low level ch with high combat skills
- mid level ch with no combat skills
- mid level ch with high combat skills
- high level ch with no combat skills
- high level ch with high combat skills
How useful are pets in:
- pve vs animals
- pve vs npc's
- pvp vs wild pets
- pvp vs players
Pet Damage
- How does the pet damage on the template and on the pet deed translate into actual damage in battle?
- What type of damage do pets do?
- How affective are pets vs armored opponents?
- Do ranged attacks work?
- What type of damage do ranged attacks do?
- Do each of the pet specials work?
Pet Damage Absorbtion
- What affect to pet resistances have
- Can pets have armor? If so, what affect does that have?
Other
- Does the mind and action stats on the pet have any affect on their combat viability?
Pet roles:
Are pets useful as:
- tankers
- nukers
Usability:
- Do pets respond to commands?
- Does pet training work?
- Can BE pets be mounted?
If anyone has any more things to add to this list please let me know and if it's reasonable, I'll add it.
Next step: I need those bio-engineers on Test Center to list your:
TC name
bio-engineer level
ch level
combat level
please keep your levels updated if you can.
Then I'd like for us to start ticking off things on this list one by one. For these we need numbers. If you are testing levelling how many hours? how many incaps? have many deaths? If you are testing combat, what were the creatures you were fighting? what were the pet stats? what were the hits on either side? what was the outcome? For crafting: what recipe, what experimentation, what experimentation outcome, what pet stats, what level, etc. Basically the more info the better 
Thanks guys!
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 04-12-2005 10:44 AM
ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:16 am
#2
I'll go first:
TC name: arthurdent
BE level: 0-1-0-1
CH level: 0-0-0-1
combat level: 5
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 04-13-2005 11:13 PM
Dorelli
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:37 am
#3
oops - sorry about those dantooine pets - i had NOT realized that we were still planet restricted. I got a bit happy.
TC name: dorelli
BE level: 0-0-0-0
other: not sure what will concentrate on - probably TK and CH
combat level: 5
Arthur - I have created a BioEngineers chat channel on EP3 ...
-- Dorelli
ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:20 pm
#4
Hi Joker, thanks for the info.
I'd like some more info on this if you can provide it. Details about pet level/owner lever/group level vs opponent level and such. Details details details, hehe.
Thanks again for your input
Joker9125 wrote:
- Group combat level (pet grouped vs ungrouped)
- The pet will take the level of the owner but will not recive the expecteddamage reductions and XP stays the same as well (altough thats more of a CH issue)
PlainWhiteSocks
Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:20 pm
#5
How is the dna gathering process for:
* low level dna
* mid level dna
* high level dna
Well, for low level DNA I noticed a kind of wierd thing. When I sample dna it comes up with an "invalid target" message that seems to match my normal combat timer. If I /peace this message stops appearing.
I tried the /peace; /sampledna; and it didn't work. I wasn't really surprised. /peace works a little diferently now. On top of this, with the hate systems in place when you sneak back to sample again from the creature it doesn't like you. Need to verify if mask scent will work on a creature that has hate built up for you.
* low level dna
* mid level dna
* high level dna
Well, for low level DNA I noticed a kind of wierd thing. When I sample dna it comes up with an "invalid target" message that seems to match my normal combat timer. If I /peace this message stops appearing.
I tried the /peace; /sampledna; and it didn't work. I wasn't really surprised. /peace works a little diferently now. On top of this, with the hate systems in place when you sneak back to sample again from the creature it doesn't like you. Need to verify if mask scent will work on a creature that has hate built up for you.
ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:33 pm
#6
I think what I will do tonight is arrange to get us a large house (if possible) in "sandbox"to store made pets in. We can store both "testable" ones and "mistakes" and the "mistakes" will be great for those of us trying to level ch for testing. Basically don't throw out pets that are at all callable by chs, no matter how screwed up they are 
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 04-12-2005 02:34 PM
Dorelli
Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:35 pm
#7
Plain White - I had that too but it went away when I unselected my default attack. I think we should /bug this.
-- Dorelli
Joker9125
Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:19 pm
#8
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Hi Joker, thanks for the info.
I'd like some more info on this if you can provide it. Details about pet level/owner lever/group level vs opponent level and such. Details details details, hehe.
Thanks again for your input
Joker9125 wrote:
- Group combat level (pet grouped vs ungrouped)
- The pet will take the level of the owner but will not recive the expecteddamage reductions and XP stays the same as well (altough thats more of a CH issue)
Send a tell to Velitham on TC and I'll be glad to assist any pet testing you BEs may require. I just made 2413 CH and plan on having CH mastered by saturday.
Vidi_MerchantMan
Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:35 pm
#9
Hello most honored bio-engineers. I am a chef and would like to participate in your testing as it pertains to the food supplements that you make. I have been helping to test out chef foods and I just want to make sure that the supplements are still working as they have in the past. Please contact me if you think we can work something out. My TC name is in my sig. I look forward to meeting you.
PlainWhiteSocks
Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:18 pm
#10
Vidi_MerchantMan wrote:
Hello most honored bio-engineers. I am a chef and would like to participate in your testing as it pertains to the food supplements that you make. I have been helping to test out chef foods and I just want to make sure that the supplements are still working as they have in the past. Please contact me if you think we can work something out. My TC name is in my sig. I look forward to meeting you.
I'd love to give you a batch upon batch of these, but there's only one we can make right now till they let us gain some BE experience.
PlainWhiteSocks
Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:24 pm
#11
Well, I got mask scent, and got a critter to hate me. Then I ran away, and hit the mask scent. It let me walk right up to the critter and sample it.
Only bad thing about the mask scent is there doesn't seem to be a way to tell that your scent is masked, so you have to watch the system massages closely. Could be a problem when your talking to someone while masked and sampling.
I discovered the default attack thing tonight as well. Thanks Dorelli.
I hat inadvertantly taken the default attack icon off the toolbar, and didn't see that I had a default auto-attack.
Only bad thing about the mask scent is there doesn't seem to be a way to tell that your scent is masked, so you have to watch the system massages closely. Could be a problem when your talking to someone while masked and sampling.
I discovered the default attack thing tonight as well. Thanks Dorelli.
I hat inadvertantly taken the default attack icon off the toolbar, and didn't see that I had a default auto-attack.
darkmeh
Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:14 pm
#12
Name: Kite' Tempest
Bio-Engineer level: 0000
CH level: 0001
Combat Level: 22
Other Skills: Novice fencer, 0004 marksman, 0034 medic, 0021 TK
So far, I've only made one creature, but it still gave some information. The creatures I used were:
F= Flewt (lv. 4)
C= Chuba (lv. 1)
F C
C C
C
I experimented fully on aggression and psychology, using the leftovers in mental - I was not able to experiment on physique. The creature came out lvl 7 with 103 health. Of course, action and mind did increase due to experimentation, but because of the new system, revert to 1000 regardless.
Damage was 80-90 and 2.0 speed.
The resistances still show blast and stun, which aren't even supposed to be in ganme anymore. This is a bug, I believe.
What was strange was that the to-hit came out to 0.0. Kind of odd, I thought, so I decided to tame the creature and test its accuracy. It hit normally.
What I'm concerned about is if resistances still play a part in the game. I can't see them on anything anymore. If resistances were taken out of the game, it's going to take a big chunkof fun out of BE for me 
PlainWhiteSocks
Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:47 am
#13
TC name: PlainWhiteSocks
bio-engineer level: 1102
ch level: None (not likely to gain)
combat level: 9
Other: Marksman 0043
bio-engineer level: 1102
ch level: None (not likely to gain)
combat level: 9
Other: Marksman 0043
Message Edited by PlainWhiteSocks on 04-14-2005 12:35 PM
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