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Thread: Bio eng nerf coming! maybe maybe not
seems risky to be making such dramatic changes to one of the most popular parts of the game. yes graul maulers are veryoverpowered and useable with very little creature handling skill andthat is a real problem -the changes sound like they will go far beyond that. not sure how 5 months in it can suddenly dawn on sony that having creatures as pets equal in power to the wild ones would create balance issues.
makes me wonder if the cloning changes are even worth waiting on anymore. if this is the directionthey intend pets to go then who knows what the end result will be of a customized pet. its obvious its a priority to curb the high defense - where else is there to go with customizing? i doubt exceptional special attacks will be allowed like the ones the ae bleeds or strong disease no matter how many hoops you jump through for the dna. then again there really is little we know about whats coming or even when that may be - only that its been far too long a wait for some sort of change to cloning.
i guess the upside is supposed to be that the creature handlers that stick it out will need more stims?
Wont it help BEs if there is no one-stop get 2 GSPs, later on get 2 Graul Maulers, solution to every combat problem?
People might start to wonder if BE clones are any good
you are still here because there is nothing compareable out there at the moment...
sooner or later the will be something tho
as for CH nerf - we can only hope they do it right THIS time, not like the last 2 patches where dabblers got a little less power and the true CHs got cut down to 25%...
well they silently nerfed the gurrecks, from endor, i can't find a single one, so a BE must make them now, guess that's good cause BE pets are stronger
\#A00345\ Michaela Jennings: Pack Master
\#A44621\Mystiqe Wind: Novice Bio-Engineer
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\#F00483\AKA: The Wind Family
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Michaela Jennings: Pack Master
Mystiqe Wind: Novice Bio-Engineer
Morro Wind: Master Creature Handler
AKA: The Wind Family
Server: Wanderhome
Morro & Michaela's Custom Order Pets, Email Orders To Michaela
anything a BE can make that CH would normall use SHOULD be made by a BE.. i see peopel outt here with 11k rancors.. like.. why don't they just buy my 12.5k rancor?
as for the rest of the pets that people dont use.. at that point it doesnt matter.. but.. ya know..
what scares me the most is.. i just said something really negative at the top of this thread and nobody flamed me... that scares me... something is very very wrong... i relaly dont want to play another server or delete my char or buy a new acct... oh .. hey.. maybe ill just cancel this acct and buy a new one... that way i'll be able to keep my hard work.. and play a better (hah?) profession... ... ... well.. only if the nerfs kill my gaming fun...
dear god will WoW please come out before year 5000?
on an unrelated note.. i thot it was funny that p-okemon was one of the censored (edit) words.... but... as stupid and as non-swg p-okemon is... i thought it would be an incredible advanced in the game to have many different types of creatures with diferent resists and attacks... heh.. but to fix the calling aspect... all they hvae to do is fix the pets stopping to look at the trees or rocks... and they can set up a stables thingie.. and u'd hvae to call it from there.. see? no more p-okemon. okay?
heh thx for reading
tissues are slow to sell.. low profit (based on the tialors ive talked to..) in compraisson to the resources it takes to make a pet and sell it...
maybe since they're gonna make pets suck.. more people will need stims to heal them cause they get their asses kicked.
I move ALOT of tissues on Starsider. I have a small but strong clientell of tailors, only 2and a 3rd now and then. I've been making tissues constantly since theupdate just to keep up, with two factories. I only sell them 1kcr/unit since they want 50 at a time. But space that over 2 or 3 tailors asking for 50 of each kind and they are already re-ordering some like active biosensors and tensiles, i've made a small fortune off tissues. Heck, i barely got time to keep up with the petstim/vitpack demand I already had. I dunno, maybe the MBE population is lower on Starsider. Each servers economy is unique as well.
Hopefully these changes to creatures in general coupled with our cloning changes (lord i hope they make it in the next big patch) will make our pets even more valueable. If wild ones get weakened/tweeked or whatever, then we get the ability to REALLY do unique things with our clones...special attacks, resists, armor etc...then BE pets would become very popular.
Marjong
As a wookie BE, if I try and rely on tailor tissues I'm sunk. There are only so many bandoliers that I can help to make. 1 to a wookie (Yes I can try and sell to non-wookies but I hate sellling a product I can even test). If the death degredation patch makes it to live, I won't even have those to sell. Who is going to wear 5K+ clothing when its quickly destroyed? Pet-stims will go even faster than the pets do. As the pets go away the demand for pet-stims will drop, fewer pet-stims will get made and it will be far easier for the few remaining pet owners to rely on small-stims/trick than try and get pet-stims. It also seems that by the time they are done nerfing, non-CH's won't have creature pets and CH's will be more rare than pikeman. BE as a proffesion will die. We have 2 products lines completely devoted to CH, (sample/clone) and two more lines that are 50% devoted to CH. (tissues and techniques) It only takes one MBE to support 10-20 CHs/tailors/chefs. This should leave enough business on each server for maybe 4 or 5 MBEs. Now that factories work a MBE with 3 factories could probably meet the needs of an entire server.
I think you are looking at the creature changes too negatively. Way too many people rely on CH for that free partner they can control. Unless they make tamed pets absolutely worthless like only a few K HAM and a couple hundred dmg tops, CH as a wide used prof isn't going anywhere. The onlyCH users really impacted will be the dabblers. Expample if they raise the CL of the graul/mauler (which it should be raised for armor1 and the kinetic resists on them) you'll still have high CHs using them....just not TWO, andthe dabblers will drop CH. If anything,all thiswill boost our petstim/vitpacks sales.
As for nonCH pets, IMO they shouldn't have gotten them in the first place. The fact that a nonCH can control the same lvl pet as a noviceCH is ridiculous. NonCHs shouldn't have gotten any pets except something for fun/looks.
People may complain about whatever ends up done to CH, some will drop it, but a majority will keep because they will still be useful. It's simply too usefula prof if you don't have a large base of friends to accomplishlarge tasks.
The degredation of clothing woudln't be that bad, they'll probably end up lowering the % before going live with it. There needs to be Some cost to dying. Besides, there are alot of people that 5k is nothing to and they'd easily buya few outfits of modified clothing.
Besides, I think there are only 4 or 5 MBEs on starsider anyway 
That i can think of anyway.
okay.. i dont get this. bio eng needs help.. so they plan to make all these things better about creatures..
but who will use them if there are no more CH's?
check the CH boards.. half of them are screaming about quitting due to the nerfs coming (summary: pets of 30 and below are getting nerfed defensivewise... and pets cl 30 and above are getting adjusted if they're not the CL they should be... meaning.. no more 2-3 pet combos cause all the low level pets suck... )
or.. is this a blessing in disguise?
if bio eng can make a really really good pet for its CL, maybe CH will still survive.. and require us to make them everything.. hah!
either way, CH's are getting nerfed.. and im starting to wonder why im playing this game... but i'll hang in there and tough it out as gimped as they make me...
anyway, opinions on the ch nerf affecting be?
a) i agree only dabblers will be affected.. but why? because the gsp/gw will be screwed up? well.. hmm.. lets think.. whats the best 3 pet combo? obviously 3 pets under cl 30! hah... if i can get a kimo at cl 60 from the new cloning changes... maybe i wont mind so much having only 1 pet forever and ever...
b) haha.. p()kemon.. hehe.. uhm... high end.. need pets... hm.. well.. are you saying that you should be able to solo anything with enuff skill and quality in the weaps? obviously not.. you expect to group... with a group, you can take anything down without pets.. so long as u have enuff power behind it... the pets are like npc groupmembers.. there's nothing wrong with needing to fight fire with fire.. or mobs with pets..
c) 2 graul maulers wont be around... that's balanced... but still.. it hurts the MCH's.. maybe if they swap it for rancor so i can use 2 of those i wont mind.. hehe... when they say "adjust" that better mean some go up some go down... they can't say adjust and just bump up a bunch of CL's... that'd be lame