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Thread: Any tips on *boosting* DNA sampling rate?

Aein
Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:25 am
#1
Hey all,


I'm actually really enjoying this profession - I like what you can do and create with it yet oddly enough I don't see many bio-engs running around (at least near me). However it's a slow one to advance in as resources aren't anywhere as easy to 'purchase' as they are with say armorsmith or wepsmith - I'm talking about meat. (incidentally if anyone on Corbantis knows of a good meat/creature resource vendor selling quants in the 10k - 50k regions please tell me!)


But I have *finally* got DNA Sampling II after many hours. It seems my success rate was about 1:8 for a while then it would jump to about 5:6 for a short spurt then back to 1:8. I am using Muon Gold to boost my mind but it still takes bloody ages.


I understand that it's not supposed to be easy but... I mean, is this what other people experience? the same sort of ratios as me? When i got lvl II i tried again and it *was* successful on my first sample attempt and then after that i logged off as i was too tired..


Basically I am sitting around Bestine and sampling the basic Worts, Rills,Rats and Gorgsto get between 84 and 100 DNA xp. I don't think my combat is skilled enough to dealwith the likes of bigger baddies when they get upset after i stick a probe in one of their orifices..


Does anyone have any suggestions or tips on speeding it up? Or if not that then to increase the success rate? Or is it based on lvl and current attributes?



Thanks


Aein
Ordlander
Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:57 am
#2
moun gold (spelling) mind buff spice. Musican buffs and there some foods you can eat from cheefs
uberzit
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:13 am
#3
At sampling 2 go to dant get 2 picket missions about 10k ea roughly same direction make sure u have a vehicle go to first mission sample as many as you can you get about 370 per picket if any aggro jump on vehicle fly accross to other rinse and repeat I have a mixture of fishak, muon, Ryschate and breath of heaven. I use a set of 70% kinetic ubese no helmet just incase I do get hit can grind 30 - 40 k in a few hours.
Aein
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:10 am
#4

Thanks for that Uberzit. i will give it a try.



My only concern is the vehicle thing. I find that often when i dismount my bike disappears. I assume its the early buggyness of vehicles in general but it would suck if it vanished and i needed to run from one of these things. I mean, I have carbine 3, some comp boots, mawarbi chest. Would i be able to take one down? How would they compare to say... one of those rock mites that come arcoss as a con of 'white' for me?


Eater-of-worlds
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:42 am
#5
Good thing with pikets are that they dont DB you. And if they agro you and your bike goes up in a puff of smoke just hit peace and start running. They will drop agro after a while just keep your fingers crossed that they dont hurt you too much on the way . And still, as i said, if they manage to incapp you you wont die.

Im grinding for IV right now and the pikets are perfect subjects .



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uberzit
Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:35 am
#6
I was doing last night for 2 - 3 hours last night with no problems with vehicle but maybe a creature mount may be better for you I use a /mount macro just to get in vehicle faster leaving the vehicle close to the lair
Spazzers
Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:41 am
#7
It only gets worse. I'm a master and I still fail sampling an insanely large amount of times. I was sampling mereks last night and failed 4 times in a row. When I finally succeeded it aggro'd on me and killed me dead. Got on my speeder and zipped back out there and did it over again. Fail, fail, fail, succeed, you're dead.


Pretty frustrating for something that's supposed to be entertainment.



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briforge
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:32 am
#8
Any suggestions on locations or targets for a new BE who just got Sampling I? 30k is a loooooong ways away doing the newbie junk around towns. Although I got 3 Dewbacks samples on 3/4 tries last night, was nice to get 220 xp per. Maybe I'll try the critters on missions now, I only get mission diff of 11-15 so the critters aren't that tough.



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SonGouki
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:51 am
#9


Yeah, I find Dantooine best for the mid-level sample grinding. Pikets and Bols are great xp and both spawn 9 per lair. Picket missions are +9000 credit range and Bols are in the +7500 credit range.


From my experience you should basically sample anything non-aggro, that doesn't deathblow, and that falls into your DNA Sample Level, as follows:


Novice BE < CL10

Sampling 1 < CL20

Sampling 2 < CL30

Sampling 3 < CL40

Sampling 4 < CL50

Master BE < CL70~5


And always remember to /peace before sampling so that if they'resocial their friends won't jump you when you fail! Using Mask Scent (even on non-aggros) helps too.





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fantoq
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:21 am
#10

Moving up, almost to sampling 2, I find the system very frustrating as well. Obviously, there is a big random factor in the software. I can sample junk 4 times in a row and fail,or sometimessample a lvl 20+ and get it on the first shot. There's just a little too much 'dice-rolling'.


I don't expect it to be predictable; probably wouldn't like it really. But if you have say, an 80% chance of success, the chance of failing 4 times in a row should reflect 1 in 5 ^4, or at least closer than it is now.


A good batch of fishak gives you +500 for about 12 minutes and doesn't have the down side of muon.





fantoq
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Tier-ra
Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:40 pm
#11

Are you sampling the same beastie repeatedly?


They dont like that.


Work the herd, going from one critter to another before you come back to resample the original. If you must resample the same critter, wait 30 sec between samples.


Also disarm yourself, /peace and /maskscent.


How far away are you? I find better results at about 10m instead of close up.


Which end of the beast are you sampling? I find that sampling from the rear end works much better than the front.


Pikets and Bolle Bols!






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Cesaire
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:29 pm
#12
I got some brandy (don't remember full name)from a master chef last night that boosts all mind stats for just under 200 each. I popped 2 a couplemins apart and I found I was regenerating my mind alsmot as fast as I used it. I was mind buffed and was able to sample dozens of times without sitting down. Man, I wish I had this when I still needed dna xp.



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hazezon1
Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:50 pm
#13
I was doing the piket sampling and hopping on my bike to get away if they went agrro on me. One piket however went aggro on my speeder bike and just about destroyed it. Not sure how it happened but just a warning to keep your bike out of the way.
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