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Thread: Is there a reason why we cant harvest after sampling?

Windsplitter
Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:59 pm
#1

Just wondering why we cant harvest a creature after it dies when we sample it. have posted this on the ranger forum too. Just seems like a waste to me.




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Trystan1969
Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:03 pm
#2

Perhaps the devs are worried that it would be exploited. They fear a large group of BEs will gang up on the Krayt Dragons and sample them to death..
Panthu
Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:47 pm
#3



I've asked this in other threads before and it's always been ignored... it just doesn't make any sense to me. Where exactly is the animal being damaged and spoiled? If it's a game balance issue, like they want you to be buying your animal resources, then why do we have to have the scouting line? Is there a reason? Or is this just an unintended feature? (working as intended of course )




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Windsplitter
Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:04 pm
#4

I just dont get it, would it be exploiting the system if we could?




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Shubalt
Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:57 pm
#5

i cant see it as exploiting.


i mean DNA sampling is a major tap to our mind and the fail rates are pretty high.


-Id love to be able to harvest stuff i **edit** with needles.

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Actaully right now im DNA I. working on II and its a pain. I still fail often on the trash outside starter towns.

-im not talking little failure i mean 5-6 times ina row.



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Savvon
Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:02 am
#6

Since alot of BE's can afford a second proffesion(CH,Riflman,Swrdsman,ect...),this does not irratate me at all for I have combat skills.I do see,however,A BE that is a Docter and have no combat skills what so ever would be a wee bit annoying.


Imo,we damage a creature less sampling then,lets say,a Commando that burns the poor thing to death,charred and turned to ashes.There is no reason we shouldnt be able to harvest after the creatures death from sampling.


If the Devs follow their normal path though,if we keep complaining about this,they will not make it better for us,they will maybe put some sort of "damage meter" on the creature,so if you damage the creature to much by blowing it up or whatever,they wont be harvestable by anyone.


I of course do not want that,but sticking with this proffesion for 5 months,going through all the trails and bugs,nothing would surprise me anymore.


Panthu
Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:41 am
#7

Keep complaining? Where was the first complaining? I don't remember seeing this as one of our "issues" ever... and goodness, I don't see how asking for an explanation constitutes complaining anyway.




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Saeleck
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:17 am
#8

The reasoning is both a complex one, and a simple one.


The Simple Answer:


When we sample the DNA, we are not actually in conflict - therefore "we" did zero damage and are not able to harvest or loot the creature.


* This can be verified by attempting to loot the creature


The Complex Answer:


This seems to be mainly an issue with permissions rather than an implemented mech. When looting you recieve the message "You do not have permission to access corpe" or what have you. This seems to be in line with the infamous MegaSeal containers in some of the caves out there. However, this may also be a mech by the Dev's to increase the time it takes to Master BE. I can't imagine the luxury of being able to harvest all of those guys I killed making my way up the sampling line. Quite possibly, I could have made the 80k stack of meat required to grind craft the rest of the profession (whooda thunk it, seamless profession mastery, this would indicate a working system no?). Really though, I do believe it to be a matter of permissions.


Anyone remember back in the day when the same thing would happen when a DoT/Bleed would be put on and the player that placed it did not get the credit/exp for the kill? Same thing in this case methinks.


Windsplitter
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:40 am
#9

oh well i guess :\




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Treetop2
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:42 am
#10

lol - If those of you that have been with this a while will remember back down memory lane, at one time we had the ability to harvest after dna sampling (don't know about looting as I was a noob and didn't think to do that). The devs in their wisdom decided that us harvesting would not be a good thing and removed it from radial menu. Thinking this might be an uninttended bug, we were still able to harvest using a typed /harvestmeat command. When this was removed as well their intent was clear that we should not be able to do this - probably cause people think we kill things to easy without risk doing the sample thing. In the begining I would get lots of dropped mouths when I snuck up to a Ravenous Torton that a group had to take down and one sample killed it. These people should come and watch us try to sample Mutant Rancors if they think sampling kills things too easy.



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ryandrew2022
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:52 am
#11

So for the simple answer, what happens if you fail, do damage to the pet, run away and come back sample and kill it...you did damage so therefor would have access to that corpse.


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Treetop2
Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:08 am
#12

Ihave shot many a Rancor with my knockdown to get away from them, come back dna assasiampled them and couldn't loot or harvest.



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Savvon
Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:34 am
#13

WHOA! Relax people...I was not flamming you...I am on YOUR side. My post was merley my opinion...no need to get all defensive. I thought these boards were a place for opinions...did not mean to offend anyone.
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