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Thread: Your Correspondent Wanders.

lammergeier
Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:00 pm
#1

here's the schedule:

thursday: work.
friday: work.
saturday: work.
sunday: work (this is all pretty usual).

MONDAY: drive to baltimore (from southwest Virginia).
TUESDAY: fly to South Dakota.

I'll be visiting my parents and one of my brothers for the week.

TUESDAY: fly back to baltimore. drive back home.
thursday: work.
etc...

during my travels, I'll have limited internet access, but I won't be entirely absent. I'm sure y'all will be fine without me for a few days.



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Meplorium
Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:33 pm
#2

Before you leave, bug the Devs about the BE CL pet size issue. Going to need to be making pets again soonish and don't want overly large pets.



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lammergeier
Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:40 pm
#3



Meplorium wrote:
Before you leave, bug the Devs about the BE CL pet size issue. Going to need to be making pets again soonish and don't want overly large pets.





way ahead of you... though the issue right now is nonCH mounts, which just don't get big enough. in a perfect world, both 'too big' and 'too small' could be fixed in one fell swoop.



---------------------"...race you to the cloner!"

xaq, Ossifrage: bloodfin-----------------------------------------Sechs: tempest
Lammergeier: bria------------------------------------------------Accipiter: ahazi

Jinks, Zaw ZeroEight, Raphael', Shub-Niggurath, Randolph Carter, Belpo
...the thorns of Test Center

-------------------------------lammergeier tracker
Meplorium
Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:49 pm
#4

I hope it was phrased in a way that would direct attention to the greater problem, rather than just a smaller problem. For me non-CH mounts just aren't a problem. No one uses mounts to begin with, specially non-CHers, and mounts need to come from CHes that train the mounts. They can get BEed or wild caught mounts if they can find anyone that wants one. I haven't recieved a non-CH mount requests in many months.The nonCH mount problemsimply isn't big enough of an issue, the over all size problem is though.



- Meparch (Master Crafter, AS, DE), Mepaarch (MiniMep, Chef, SW), Meparca (Master Wookiee), Mepthorian (Master Naturalist, CH, BE)
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Visit the commerce district, Crystal Hollow, Dantooine.
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lammergeier
Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:00 pm
#5



Meplorium wrote:
I hope it was phrased in a way that would direct attention to the greater problem, rather than just a smaller problem. For me non-CH mounts just aren't a problem. No one uses mounts to begin with, specially non-CHers, and mounts need to come from CHes that train the mounts. They can get BEed or wild caught mounts if they can find anyone that wants one. I haven't recieved a non-CH mount requests in many months. The nonCH mount problem simply isn't big enough of an issue, the over all size problem is though.





it's a 'big issue' because it visibly breaks a game system for a number of players... whether or not nonCH mounts themselves are important. 'my pets are too big' is a qualitative response... many players would counter with 'I love my big pets'... but 'nonCH mounts are limited to falumpasets and CL10 dewbacks' is a quantitative problem.

the underlying problem: that mount skins vary in their CL scaling (compare a CL70 kimogila to a CL70 razor cat, for instance). it's hard to convince the devs that 'big pets' are a pressing problem, since I've heard as much POSITIVE feedback from players as NEGATIVE... and in front of starports, ALL I hear is positive feedback. however, I have noted that CL sizing is less than ideal on both the big AND the small end.



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xaq, Ossifrage: bloodfin-----------------------------------------Sechs: tempest
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Jinks, Zaw ZeroEight, Raphael', Shub-Niggurath, Randolph Carter, Belpo
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Meplorium
Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:12 pm
#6

Right, we do need to choose the sizing ourselves, big or small. My fear is that they will only increase the base size for the mounts and leave it at that. So we don't actually get the problem fixed, just a small part of it.



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Aerontako_Shretalon
Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:14 pm
#7

I like being able to make pets bigger than they are in the wild. I'm not talking about Fambaa or Kimogilla, but I like my CL70 Falumpset that can walk allong the bottom of lakes. What I would like to see is a slight boost in height for CL10 pets, and only shorten the higher level pets that actually need it, like Kimogilla and Dewback. Since my BE/CH is my main... And only...Character, I notice ALLOT of players wanting big pets. It's not something showoffie, but allot of CH and Non-CH really want a big cuddly squall like my lil CL63 Halio.


I'm all for giving a boost to lower level pets sizes, but I'd really hate to see my big pets reduced to normal size.
Meplorium
Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:25 pm
#8

Ideally there should be a slider of some sort when the BE makes the animal that sets the full grown size and have it based on CL. So you can have a big CL70 Kimo or a small CL70 kimo but that small CL70 Kimo will still be bigger than a CL20 Kimo. If that makes sense. So a small CL70 gurreck would be a normal sized animal while a large one would be house sized (why some would would want one that big, no idea, but the option would be nice). A big CL10 gurreck should still be small while a small CL10 would be a kitten sized cat. Like wise a large CL10 dewback would just be big enough to be mountable while a small CL10 would be a small pet lizard.


Just addressing the small CL10 mount size doesn't get us there.



- Meparch (Master Crafter, AS, DE), Mepaarch (MiniMep, Chef, SW), Meparca (Master Wookiee), Mepthorian (Master Naturalist, CH, BE)
Drop Off Vendor: Buffy in the Bacta Tank, Crystal Hollow, Dantooine. -6931 4819
Visit the commerce district, Crystal Hollow, Dantooine.
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Special Orders Welcome, Send Mail.
lammergeier
Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:32 pm
#9



Meplorium wrote:
Ideally there should be a slider of some sort when the BE makes the animal that sets the full grown size and have it based on CL. So you can have a big CL70 Kimo or a small CL70 kimo but that small CL70 Kimo will still be bigger than a CL20 Kimo. If that makes sense. So a small CL70 gurreck would be a normal sized animal while a large one would be house sized (why some would would want one that big, no idea, but the option would be nice). A big CL10 gurreck should still be small while a small CL10 would be a kitten sized cat. Like wise a large CL10 dewback would just be big enough to be mountable while a small CL10 would be a small pet lizard.
Just addressing the small CL10 mount size doesn't get us there.





keep in mind that colors don't stick to all clone species... and that's been a problem for ages. ideally, yes, a clone should have size customization within a range determined by CL... but let's not stray too far from realistic expectations.



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xaq, Ossifrage: bloodfin-----------------------------------------Sechs: tempest
Lammergeier: bria------------------------------------------------Accipiter: ahazi

Jinks, Zaw ZeroEight, Raphael', Shub-Niggurath, Randolph Carter, Belpo
...the thorns of Test Center

-------------------------------lammergeier tracker
Dorelli
Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:35 pm
#10


Have a good time on your travels and don't forget to hug your mum (not that you would) ...


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Iarian
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:37 am
#11






Meplorium wrote:
I hope it was phrased in a way that would direct attention to the greater problem, rather than just a smaller problem. For me non-CH mounts just aren't a problem. No one uses mounts to begin with, specially non-CHers, and mounts need to come from CHes that train the mounts. They can get BEed or wild caught mounts if they can find anyone that wants one. I haven't recieved a non-CH mount requests in many months.The nonCH mount problemsimply isn't big enough of an issue, the over all size problem is though.





Non CH mounts are a big issue with me... I've had an order to fill of 50 (now might want more) Non CH mounts for a RP guild... Recipes seem to shift way to much and trying to get this order done has been a pain... So, both problems deserve equal attention..



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Kaomond
Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:34 am
#12






Meplorium wrote:
I hope it was phrased in a way that would direct attention to the greater problem, rather than just a smaller problem. For me non-CH mounts just aren't a problem. No one uses mounts to begin with, specially non-CHers, and mounts need to come from CHes that train the mounts. They can get BEed or wild caught mounts if they can find anyone that wants one. I haven't recieved a non-CH mount requests in many months.The nonCH mount problemsimply isn't big enough of an issue, the over all size problem is though.





I'm sorry but i so dissagree with you there, i think theyre both equaly important issues, i was asked for 20 non-ch dewbacks for a roleply guild the other day and i had to say no because of this issue, thats a lot of money for me to lose for a bug.




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Katharian
Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:11 am
#13




Meplorium wrote:
I hope it was phrased in a way that would direct attention to the greater problem, rather than just a smaller problem. For me non-CH mounts just aren't a problem. No one uses mounts to begin with, specially non-CHers, and mounts need to come from CHes that train the mounts. They can get BEed or wild caught mounts if they can find anyone that wants one. I haven't recieved a non-CH mount requests in many months.The nonCH mount problemsimply isn't big enough of an issue, the over all size problem is though.







I'm with Kaomond on this one. I still get a lot of people asking for non-CH mounts and pets. Some just want it for a cute pet others do use them. This bug has made me very frustrated along with my customersas all they can get to ride are 2 of the mount types. As for other sizing issues I actualy like my giant kitty's and vermmok. The sight of a giant cl 69 jax pouncing on stormtropers is a wonderfull thing, not to mention other people seem to get a good laught over it as well.




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