Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Buying meat: Are doctors killing the tissue suppliers?
aswex wrote:Are the doctor buffs so powerful that the demand is huge, the doctors can price high, and then offer high amounts for meat, squeezing out everyone else?
In short, yes.
What I have yet to see if a shortage of BE enhanced chef foods which I believe would be a true indicator there is a resource shortage.But then I am sure it all depends on your location and server.
Herbsman wrote:
Get the chefs to charge 2million for a crate of Bivoli, that'll teach those docs to mess with us.
lmao
honestly though, when buffs get a huge nerf, docs won't be able to charge 10k per set of buffs (and now 5k for a poison/disease resist buff?? **edit**)
i even had a doc charge me 5k to heal some wounds along with my buffs...... all 20 of them 
i had to pay 55cr/u for meat a while back and it was nuts because some people were offering 70cr/u
herbivore meat will always be a doc resource, since they will pay 100cr/u when most be's would only be able to spare about 30cr/u
it'll all even out though eventually, though
Kevie wrote:
Herbsman wrote:
Get the chefs to charge 2million for a crate of Bivoli, that'll teach those docs to mess with us.
lmao
honestly though, when buffs get a huge nerf, docs won't be able to charge 10k per set of buffs (and now 5k for a poison/disease resist buff?? **edit**)
i even had a doc charge me 5k to heal some wounds along with my buffs...... all 20 of them
i had to pay 55cr/u for meat a while back and it was nuts because some people were offering 70cr/u
herbivore meat will always be a doc resource, since they will pay 100cr/u when most be's would only be able to spare about 30cr/u
it'll all even out though eventually, though
Hmm the Sun is going to expand and engulf the earth eventually too.
Ok, I disagree.... I have many toons (including a Jedi).
Let’s think about this.... I just spent one buff set getting 1900 units of cor. insect meat. Now this meat for be is uber so I really wanted it. I could have paid like 100-120 cpu but no..... I can harv my own (here were I think I am a dumba$$) so 3.5 hours 1.9k meat..... The next day, got on my Jedi did janta missions and pulled 1.9 million in 3.2 hours.... now if I used that 1.9 mil to buy meat at 120cpu I could have bought almost 16k. Now to the other extreme, bykilling rancoryou can harv about 100k of rancor meat per buff set which works out 10mil. Now depending on the quality may ormay not be worth it....
Why should anyone want to harvest meat for doc or be if they can get more money running missions?I have found that most be's screw themselves by attempting to charge a "fair" price to chef's who turn around add some fruit and water, and resell the product for 200k per crate.
Doc’s can pay 100cpu for meat because in order to hunt or pvp everyone needs buffs. Well the same goes for food. There are just as many uses in a stack of brandy as is in a stack of HAM buffs. Chefs realize this and they charge accordingly. On our server a good crate of brandy will cost you 180-200k.
Don’t blame the doc's (especially since I have one of those too :> ). Now that the bottom has fallen out of the creature and pet-stim market (thanks devs) the only way that a be can make money is through food additives, so charge a realistic price not what you think is fair, and the prices for meat will not seem so bad...
Riah
Lowca
Riah1 wrote:Ok, I disagree.... I have many toons (including a Jedi).
Let’s think about this.... I just spent one buff set getting 1900 units of cor. insect meat. Now this meat for be is uber so I really wanted it. I could have paid like 100-120 cpu but no..... I can harv my own (here were I think I am a dumba$$) so 3.5 hours 1.9k meat..... The next day, got on my Jedi did janta missions and pulled 1.9 million in 3.2 hours.... now if I used that 1.9 mil to buy meat at 120cpu I could have bought almost 16k. Now to the other extreme, bykilling rancoryou can harv about 100k of rancor meat per buff set which works out 10mil. Now depending on the quality may ormay not be worth it....
Why should anyone want to harvest meat for doc or be if they can get more money running missions?I have found that most be's screw themselves by attempting to charge a "fair" price to chef's who turn around add some fruit and water, and resell the product for 200k per crate.
Doc’s can pay 100cpu for meat because in order to hunt or pvp everyone needs buffs. Well the same goes for food. There are just as many uses in a stack of brandy as is in a stack of HAM buffs. Chefs realize this and they charge accordingly. On our server a good crate of brandy will cost you 180-200k.
Don’t blame the doc's (especially since I have one of those too :> ). Now that the bottom has fallen out of the creature and pet-stim market (thanks devs) the only way that a be can make money is through food additives, so charge a realistic price not what you think is fair, and the prices for meat will not seem so bad...
Riah
Lowca
...you obviously missed the chef/BE pricing discussions, the prices we charge arent because we want to set a 'fair' price, a fair price would be around 80k a crate for BSNs, the prices are like they are because thats what chefs are willing to pay.
However smaller quantities of meat will produce buff packs for the docs which yield a much greater income per use than our tissues, which means that they can afford to pay much more for the meat and still make a two to four hundred percent profit.
And hunting solo for meat usually means you can't get 20k before it shifts. I see our chef tissue business slowly declining until things stabilize and chefs charge more for their product, allowing them to pay us more for ours and us to pay hunters more.
As Nancy said, Chefs aren't hurting for money. They easily make 2-300% the cost of ingredients in profit. Whereas if tissues are priced to make 100% profit BEs notice a huge slow down in sales.
What I did was have list of meats that I updated every few days in my shop. I listed the resource name, type and the amount I would pay for it [Dathomir Carnivore (Geesxe) 25 cpu]. I would let my hunters know about what the current good meats were and they would bring it to me.
By sticking with a couple of good meats, ones that were easy to obtain, and gave good mission payouts, my hunters would view the selling as an added bonus. Make it easier to hunt for your needs than the doctors', and a lot of people will not care about the extra cash or realize that quantity matters. 50k units at 25 cpu (good rancor meat) is more than 5k units at 100 cpu (good Lok avian).