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Thread: +88 BSN's.. is this how I'm supposed to do this?
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CapricornONE
Fri May 28, 2004 10:52 pm
#1
okay since I havnt posted in a while (been to busy sampling DNA in PvP..... j/k) I have a question:
How do I get +88 BSN's?
I have 988 OQ wood
A very large stack of meat with an average of 810 for OQ/PE/FLVR
and some very good fora (don't have the stats on hand)
would this be enough to make at least +86's? or would it be possible to bring my BSN's to +88?
I've been trying forever to get +88's and the "using wood trick" never seems to work for me.. any advise would be helpfull
Thanks
Joilhath
Sat May 29, 2004 1:17 am
#2
Don't think your ever going to get +88's with wood. Anytime time I've tried using high OQ qood it has brought down the nutrient value a little.
Plageron
Sat May 29, 2004 12:15 pm
#3
+88 can be achieved and broken...
You can do it via a special item not yet implemented in the game but soon...(secret data???)
The fluctuation with the materials will make it possible as well but its almost impossible to get all perfect materials.
Maybe someday if someone ever includes things like Rancor bile or Kimogila Scale like objects for Bio_engineers to use then it will make it easier.
Also...if you are doing your experimentation point for point...try using more points at once.
I usually do this becasue I get a higher overall value on the objects I make...not all the time mind you but enough.
And if I make something real good this way and have enough materials I can make a schematic and produce them in a Factory.
You can do it via a special item not yet implemented in the game but soon...(secret data???)
The fluctuation with the materials will make it possible as well but its almost impossible to get all perfect materials.
Maybe someday if someone ever includes things like Rancor bile or Kimogila Scale like objects for Bio_engineers to use then it will make it easier.
Also...if you are doing your experimentation point for point...try using more points at once.
I usually do this becasue I get a higher overall value on the objects I make...not all the time mind you but enough.
And if I make something real good this way and have enough materials I can make a schematic and produce them in a Factory.
grelgen
Sun May 30, 2004 1:02 am
#4
you know this is a science, right? You cant fool science by using wood and hoping the game adds in some 1000s for you. Long time ago they told us that is the item needed a stat, OQ or PE or whatever, and the material you use does not have that stat, you essentially add a 0 everywhere that stat would be used in a calc. I've made 89% BSNs using 990 avg quality meat and 800 avg quality flora, meat used for organic(general). Aint no wood trick gonna work here.
Blytz1
Sun May 30, 2004 4:29 am
#5
That's not correct.
If the item you use does not include a stat required (e.g. wood does not have PE/FL) then the stats from it are null, not zero. This in effect means that the formula only uses the stats from resources which are available and doesn't penalize resources that do not have those stats.
Personally I wouldn't use wood as a substitute unless I had exceptional other flora and meatto combine. By using some really good flora, which is easy to get in large quantities, I can make BSN's with 85-86 using grind quality meat. I prefer to do that with Intel Nan's instead as the meat represents an even smaller percentage of the resources required.
CJadefire
Sun May 30, 2004 7:27 am
#6
What Blytz1 said... the "stat as 0" issue only comes up when no ingredients in the item have that stat, thus rendering the schematic gated and impossible to produce at a good quality. So long as one ingredient has the stat, that's the only one that counts in the final calculation, and that's why wood is a good trick for BEs, so long as the FL/PE is high on the meat. Any artisan can test this personally, and does, every time he makes a crafting tool, which requires high conductivity found only on the metal used in the schematic - not the chemical.
MoronicFool
Sun May 30, 2004 9:32 am
#7
I hit +88 with 905 Avg Meat and 968 avg Flora. I just wish I had more of the meat
CapricornONE
Sun May 30, 2004 10:47 pm
#8
MoronicFool wrote:
I hit +88 with 905 Avg Meat and 968 avg Flora. I just wish I had more of the meat
Awsome. Thats all I was looking for was the cold hard numbers. Your my hero
Kevm
Mon May 31, 2004 7:37 am
#9
MoronicFool wrote:
I hit +88 with 905 Avg Meat and 968 avg Flora. I just wish I had more of the meat
I just did a batch of 88's but I usedmid 900ave Fora and low 600 ave meat.
CapricornONE
Mon May 31, 2004 8:32 am
#10
Kevm wrote:
MoronicFool wrote:
I hit +88 with 905 Avg Meat and 968 avg Flora. I just wish I had more of the meat
I just did a batch of 88's but I usedmid 900ave Fora and low 600 ave meat.
Sweet, thanx
MoronicFool
Mon May 31, 2004 8:33 am
#11
Kevm wrote:
MoronicFool wrote:
I hit +88 with 905 Avg Meat and 968 avg Flora. I just wish I had more of the meat
I just did a batch of 88's but I usedmid 900ave Fora and low 600 ave meat.
Names of the Resources ? I am curious on the Meat. I am thinking you used the Good spawn of Tat Rice or the Endor Berries for Organic.
Kevm
Mon May 31, 2004 8:52 am
#12
You want me to give a competetor the recipe to my secret sauce???? 
For the batch of 88's I used Dath Carnivor meat (Alaekotic) and the 968 ave Endor Berries that recently spawned.
Without those berries I can only get 83/84 with that meat (which is still decent) depending on the Flora
MoronicFool
Mon May 31, 2004 9:04 am
#13
Kevm wrote:
You want me to give a competetor the recipe to my secret sauce????
For the batch of 88's I used Dath Carnivor meat (Alaekotic) and the 968 ave Endor Berries that recently spawned.
Without those berries I can only get 83/84 with that meat (which is still decent) depending on the Flora
hmm, didn't try that one. Though I don't have alot of the Endorian Berries. I think I have 172k of that meat. Or that might be my stack of 52k. I missed seeing the spawn ofberries until it was too late., I only got 2 days of it and not at a good spot either. No worrying about the competition. Unless there is another awsome spawn of stuff that I notice....
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