Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: OK what gives?
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6Gun
Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:05 am
#1
I just returned to the game today after about 8 mo's away. I try to do 3 BH missions...simple on planet ones just to get the hang of things.
Mission 1 was a no spawn
Mission 2 no spawn
Mission 3 I lose the wp no way to bring it back up on any list it is gone. Mission still shows on my data pad but no wp. I also <and this could be lack of knowledge couldn't get any form of wp to spawn on my planetary map for the missions. I had wps to everything else in the world but no mission wp icon on map. I had to throw my hands in the air and wonder what put it in my head to come back.
RhathZabren
Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:09 am
#2
lol, welcome back, those a just a few of the minor bugs that bh's have to deal with. You can fix it by simply pulling mobs over near the mark, if the mark doesn't come out then use an aoe attack on the mob you've pulled and hopefully it will hit your mark and get him to appear
6Gun
Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:55 am
#3
Ahh ok I'll try the area attack thing I did'nt know it was just that they were out of sight . Also the wp issue has it been changed so that we don't get map icons anymore? Thank you.
Sunrunner_Cixx
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:01 am
#4
Odd I havent seen a bugged BH mission in a good while but i do figure they still exist. I have never had to use the AOE or training mobs technique but I have been told alot it does work.
Only mission i had a problem with i crashed on the way to it and the mark was lost WP still active but mark was gone.
fav
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:08 am
#5
Here's a fix i found that works for that mission bug. When you're seekers have locked onto the final waypoint for the mission (when the waypoint doesn't move when it updates) and you get there and find no spawn run through the waypoint and continue in the other direction until you are out of radar range of it (about 1000m to be safe). Launch another seekerand wait for the update. Then head back to the waypoint and your mark should be there. If not, make sure you clear all the creates or lairs that might be around the waypoint location. This tactic fixed all but one of the bugged missions I've ever had. Since the last pub fix I've not had any bugged missions but I've heard some people still get them time to time, mostly on Naboo and Dathomir.
Sunrunner_Cixx
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:11 am
#6
Well he said "on Planet" missions i would suspect that is invest 1 missions and the mark should not wander. So no seekers needed you cant even use them at invest 1
6Gun
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:26 am
#7
Well I'm up to 6 no spawn missions in row now. As I said they are on planet missions. I tried the ae attack fix with no luck. I'm pretty much stumped. Even before i quit the first time it wasn't near this bad.Also was there some sort of change where there is a min distance on marks now I don't seem to find anything under 4k meters away and still no wp generate on my map?
VP
Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:29 pm
#8
First off I'm a respec Bio-engie. I've been away from the game a while and was delighted to see the respec on resubscribing and I'd always wanted to be bio engie but had other priorities.
So I've been an engie for 3 days and I am seriously wondering whetherI made the right choice. Last time I looked at my title it said master so why do I get so many failures when taking a sample? These usually end up as incap or death and i can't keep up with the wounds and insurance and decay.
My other main profession is merchant as how else am I supposed to sell my wares, standing on the street corner yelling.. sure! All I have is recon armor so i may aswell be wearing nothing as I can't get away fast enough beforeI get hit twice, I have +100 in mask scent which doesn't seem to matter either. I sample and get on my swoop with a macro incase I get aggro but the bikes are so slow to get away I get the second hit beforeI have even begin to move sometimes.
Why do bio engies have such a low rating armor which highest resistance is to energy when our work is primarly close upto melee creatures, sure you might say get a combat profession and get better armor but when a kimo hits you nothing really matters. I'm not asking for an 'I win' button just a way of getting away when the sample fails which it seems to do quite a lot.
Truth is I'm tired of dieing several times a day just to craft a few pets, surely this isn't what the devs had in mind and if it is 'what were they thinking'. How do you stay alive? How do you get within range of a high aggro creature to get a sample?
I really need to find the answers to these question beforeI make a quick trip to respec central once more, i really enjoy being a bio engie but the risk in my case is far outweighing the benifits.
I8TheWorm
Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:37 pm
#9
I became a MBE because I like the complexity. There are tons of problems with the profession, but the complexity is still there. Just wait it out.. if smugglers can get a revamp, we can get fixes to our profession 
Cindal
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:32 pm
#10
Sampling failure depends on the creature level for the most part. Although we can sample up to CL75 our percentage rate for success is small and I have not heard that this has changed since CU came out.
As for failing on lower level creatures, the odds are better by far but certainly not guaranteed.
To help keep your deaths down you can use mask scent or use the camo kits (however they will not work in conjunction with mask scent), you can drink Jawa Beer, you can group with a level 80 player. Some people have had success scoping out a lair, making a wp for it, driving away and then rushing in on their swoop before the creatures have loaded.
Death is a way of life for the BE who samples.
VP
Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:14 am
#11
I thought I must have been doing something wrong but it looks like I haven't, it's reallyIS just the way it is. That's bad news about cam kits not working with mask scent so which is better, my mask scent at +100 or a rangers camo kit?
I think it's wrong to have the creature aggro on you so often when you fail a sample, since the failure rate on high level creatures is so high. Withelete level creatures it means instant death for a lot of us, just seems unfair to me, it also means I will be charging premium price for the high end pets.
Gimpynoob
Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:16 am
#12
Yeah, its true that you are required to group with a CL80 character if you don't wanna die.
And if you can't find one willing to do so, you're out of luck.
I've been playing my wife's CL17 MBE and when I'm not grouped with a CL80, I'd say that 3 samples per incap is probably the average when sampling high level aggresive creatures.
I don't consider this acceptable but from what I understand, this is working as intended if you can believe it.
And if you can't find one willing to do so, you're out of luck.
I've been playing my wife's CL17 MBE and when I'm not grouped with a CL80, I'd say that 3 samples per incap is probably the average when sampling high level aggresive creatures.
I don't consider this acceptable but from what I understand, this is working as intended if you can believe it.
Rodmaster
Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:37 am
#13
3 per incap on 70 +CL, doing better than me I am frequently lucky to get one before they aggro on me, and that is with mask scent on.
I am frequently lucky to get one before they aggro on me, and that is with mask scent on.
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