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SSquirrel76

Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:05 am

May as well do this right.

Currently the requirements of meat for most of the new Chef additives will make sure that they are never mass produced. We also are unable to harvest anything off a creature we have DNA Sampled from. This petition is trying to change that. We need all the meat we can get right now. Considering we don't have enough harvesters to come near meeting the demands, I seriously doubt a bit more will hurt the economy.

So read this, and post your /sign here.

Talthazar wanna sticky this so we get more folks posting on it?

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Frostbite43

Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:52 am

#2

/sign

Mitsuko Darko

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SonGouki

Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:01 am

#3

/sign

I also like the idea to give us bonuses to harvesting (akin to CM bonuses for Terrain Negotiation).

Our meat requirements are just insane, there just isn't enough supply to meet the demands...

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JediMasterCarlito

Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:24 am

#4

/sign

Despite the needed resources, it just makes no sense anyway. You draw blood from a creature and now its meat/hide/bone is useless?

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DarcDawg

Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:44 am

#5

/pawprint

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Linoric

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:11 am

#6

/ClawMark

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anubis1134

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:34 am

#7

/signed with zab horn!

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Scorus

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:39 am

#8

No, this is not the answer. The answer is either to increase (by at least double) the output of all creature resources from /harvest or to just give us back the early beta creature resource harvesters that made it so much less WORK to be a crafter.

The reasons this won't work are several, but the biggest is that in another couple of weeks of dna sampling you will no longer be killing creatures. So on any given server what you suggest MIGHT increase the meat supply by a thousand or so. And people who are already upset that low level BEs can sample away lairs for money will be even more unhappy.

Scorus

Timbiotic

Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:06 am

#9

/sign

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TheKeast

Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:39 am

#10

I am agreeing with Scorus here.

This breaks the cycle of dependancy which is crucial for the balance. If we can harvest from our samples then there is no dependency of any other class for what we make. We are Self Sufficient, perhaps that is what you are asking for. But isn't that what we complained about in other classes???

What about when Chefs start a petition to get rid of Bio enhanced ingreadiants because there is a short supply of them? Will you sign that as well?

And your premise is false about lack of enough meat. I have 2 accounts, one is Master BIO and the other is a Pistoleer (grinding). I get to play for a max of 2 hours a night. On nights when I am trying to Master Pistoleer I head out to Dath and get in Enraged Rancor Groups. 200 meat per Rancor and 6 rancors per Lair. in about 1-2 hours we finish off around 10-15 lairs. I end up with stacks of 10K meat on every occasion. Typically there are 8-10 of us in a group.

Prior to grinding thru Pistol I made one trip to Dath and networked with people who were getting into groups to buy their meat for 3cr per unit.

This is not a rip but more a tip. If you are a BIO and looking for meat don't wait for the combat classes to come to you. Go to them (Dath and Dant)and set up a working agreement. Most of the time you are right they dont even harvest. Simply offereing them 3cr for something they are leaving on the ground will get you all the meat you can handle.

ArthurDentOnBria

Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:49 am

#11

Well, I don't really see any huge reason why we shouldn't be able to extract meat from our dna roadkill, and it was kinda cool when we could, but if you really look at it, this is a non-issue.

Lets say you were to spendall night dna sampling. You might get, what, 50 samples max? Out of that you might kill maybe ten creatures tops? Off of those, you'll get maybe an average of 50 meat with hunting 4. So that's500 meat, mostly likely spread across 3-4 different stacks, and most likely only 1 of those stacks will be of the sort of quality you'd like for samples. So in the end, you end up with maybe a stack of 100 quality meat out of all that. wohoo! that's enough to make like 3 tissues, lol. And if you made those 3 tissues a chef would laugh at you and toss them back. Useless since all their sales are by the crate.

SSquirrel76 wrote:

May as well do this right.

Currently the requirements of meat for most of the new Chef additives will make sure that they are never mass produced. We also are unable to harvest anything off a creature we have DNA Sampled from.

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Jiz

Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:50 am

#12

If you plan to stop the petition from letting BE's harvest sampled corpses....what's your opinion on letting us loot them? I see no reason why not...

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jedisliver

Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:20 pm

#13

I would agree with giving Bio-Engineers the ability to harvest a creature that died from DNA Sampling... and I have very good justification for it. The requirement to get into Bio-Engineer includes the Hunting tree which takes scouting experience that is granted from... HARVESTING... the Hunting tree itself grants increase Creature Knowledge and yeap... you guessed it, Creature Harvesting! There is really no reason why we shouldn't be able to Harvest our own kills.

As for someone's idea it's because we do no combat damage... that is flawed. I can lay prone hit a creature with a pistol and peace... stand up and sample the creature to death and I still gain no combat experience and I can not Harvest. Heck I've been grouped with a Pikeman who bleed the creature down to 1 and but he became incapped... thinking he'd still get the experience I sampled the creature... it died but he gained nothing andneither of us could Harvest ( yes he was a scout too ).

I honestly believe this change would be better for everyone all around. We are not taking anything away from anybody we just want to use a skill that was required to get into the profession in the first place.

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