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OK, I spent the evening crafting some high-end pets and they all fell nicely onto the line that I graphed. So I think that we can use this graph (well mine is on paper so you will have to make your own) to predict what values of health or armor or damage we can get for what level pet.

It seems to be a trade-off between those 3 items. Which is really what you would expect.

Towards the beginning of the curve, the non-CH pets part, the line flattens and curves. So it is looking a little like it will be a curve with a mostly straight part but more data is needed for the low and middle end now.

I printed out the graph and drew a line with a pencil and it is clearly a parabola (quite flat tho).

If you'd like to help with this, can you please post:

• Your final template values


• Your resulting animal with stats and level shown

Thanks all very much in advance,
Dor

Message Edited by Dorelli on 05-28-2005 06:02 PM

From my previous thread, though this contains some pre-CU DNA.

Hard: 674
Fort: 703
Powr: 696

CL: 74
703 + [(674 - 703) / 2] + 696 = 1721.5

Hard: 922
Fort: 821
Powr: 662

CL: 80
821 + [(922 - 821) / 2] + 662 = 1533.5

Dunno if this helps, but those are the only values I have written down ATM. Keep up the good work.

Thanks Kivrin,

I'm adding these to my spreadsheet and I have modified my followup post b/c the 'line' when i put pencil to paper suddenly turned into a very flat parabola.

CL18: 224 + [(434-224) / 2] + 252 = 581

CL39: 405 + [(650-405)/ 2] + 401 = 928.5

CL39: 406 + [(592-406) / 2] + 429 = 928

CL65: 703 + [(842-703) / 2] + 534 = 1306.5

As a side note, this is also [(hardiness + fortitude) / 2] + power

or... Hardiness + Fortitude + (Power * 2)

so power seems to affect level the most which matches with what I've been seeing.

Message Edited by BraccusD on 05-28-2005 06:59 PM

HardinessFortitude Power CL

856739 403 53

832769 428 54

838 654 52962

75366253463

780 686542 63

806688426 49

763 668 532 62

4 deaths, 23 incaps and 5.5 hours....I hope this help Dor

Message Edited by Dorelli on 05-29-2005 03:29 AM

Message Edited by Dorelli on 05-30-2005 11:45 AM

Intesting. I'll have to spend 25-30 deaths tonight and go DNA sampling.

The new pet system kind of reminds me of the old "guess your silent prof" craze, well, except that nobody really cares about poor creature crafters.

Thanks for the data guys. It all fits nicely on the curve!!! Sorry about the deaths Alesk - if you were on bloodfin I could do something about that but you're not

Dor

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BraccusD wrote:

CL18: 224 + [(434-224) / 2] + 252 = 581

CL39: 405 + [(650-405)/ 2] + 401 = 928.5

CL39: 406 + [(592-406) / 2] + 429 = 928

CL65: 703 + [(842-703) / 2] + 534 = 1306.5

As a side note, this is also [(hardiness + fortitude) / 2] + power

or... Hardiness + Fortitude + (Power * 2)

so power seems to affect level the most which matches with what I've been seeing.

Message Edited by BraccusD on 05-28-2005 06:59 PM

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[hard+fort+(power*2)]/2.....you gotta cancel out since you're multiplying both sides of the equation by 2

Yes sorry for making the original calculation so difficult when it could have been easy - i was just looking at my graph and thinking ... how do i get the line to fall between those two points ....

How about this:

0.25 fortitude + 0.25 hardiness + 0.5 power = index to plot on graph to get a ballpark idea of combat level

where:

level 10 index <= 180 *
level 23 index <= 350 *
level 35 index <= 450 *
level 70 index <= 700 *

* this is very approximate and probably should be a range.

The line of the graph is proving to be a bit broad so there is probably some other factor that is needed to refine it until it is a proper curve.

well this could also explain why everything was ending up CL122 before....Excel puts the value for a CL 122 based on these values at alittleover 2100,and 2000 is what you'd get ifyou used stat-capped DNA for those 3

and it cites a CL10 at just over 500 for the experimental value, so something with about 400 hard 400 fort 100 power would probably be the best you could do for non-CH practically, since donor DNA for slot 5 with higher power will likely kick in higher fort and hard too.

Hi Dorelli,

Hope this helps.

CL HP Hard Fort Power Index
14 4549 651 10 127 229
21 4899 622 211 140 278
21 5010 655 244 139 294
21 5392 734 70 223 313
22 4478 557 390 164 319
25 6616 962 9 254 370
26 5185 694 477 238 412
27 5781 774 315 255 400
27 6688 1002 2 305 404
28 5917 761 428 211 403
28 6052 815 304 246 403
28 5964 764 425 212 403
29 5408 679 562 201 411
29 5853 772 489 253 442
30 6115 812 370 280 436
31 6044 807 368 278 433
32 5964 774 415 282 438
34 6227 811 460 277 456
34 6179 808 482 304 475
35 5996 802 358 329 455

Seems to work pretty well, a few that don't
quite fit, so they probably take account of
the other stats some how to a minor degree.

They were a mix of Old DNA, sampled deeds
(made useless by a Dev) and new DNA.

Cheers
Anity.

Fantastic! I've put everyone's data together with mine on my spreadsheet and I've made an image file of the graph (so far). The pink values are Lamm's wild animals (you can clearly see the elites on the far right not fitting on the curve).