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CL 75 912 801 579 717 result

CL 70 880 784 571701 result in rancor skin 6783 health 4704 armor 65 regen 140 to hit 102-404 damage

Dang it, I just noticed you used a different forumula...I'll have to try that and see how it works. And make sure I have it right in my spreadsheet..lol

Everything updated with new formula hard*25% +fort* 25% +power *50%

Message Edited by Aleskander on 05-30-2005 09:50 AM

Message Edited by Aleskander on 05-30-2005 10:11 AM

Message Edited by Aleskander on 05-30-2005 10:16 AM

Message Edited by Aleskander on 05-30-2005 10:34 AM

Message Edited by Aleskander on 05-30-2005 11:17 AM

Thanks Dor. I'll see what happens using those numbers.

The only wild mob I've found at CL 75 has been malkoc bulls and malkocs...at least they don't DB...lol.

Mixing them with klamuth reapers has worked pretty well. I've also used them mixed with baz nitches and a few other CL 60+ samples.

I've noticed ranocr samples aren't that good now. The hardiness is around 750 while with malkoc bulls I've gotten hardiness of 800-1k.

Also (sometimes), the inital combine is higher than what you can experiment to sometimes. For example, I had a combine of 868 hardiness and when I experimented it dropped and the highest I got out of it was 859.

I wonder if the new diminishing returns system that has been implemented post CU might be wat keeps making ur curve look like a porabola? But who knows...just a guess on wat could be causing some of the frustration. Something else i would like to find out is wat is the mathematical relationship between the five different DNA samples in the template and what values are therefore created!!! But great work and if i was a master BE alrdy i would be out there tryin to help u out...oh well, guess i am just slow lol.

Hard Fort Dex End Int Clev Dep Cour Fierce Power Cl Health Regen Armor Def
627 461 193 306 70 97 37 53 384 411 34 4454 23 2766 40
477230143249 71 87 20 31211 320 203396 18 1380 31
417 171272 443 64 435 140 159 383 467 36 3166 34 1026 53
402 228 243 412 75 354 194 33 181 404 29 3031 32 1368 48
759 651 487 723 60 493 486 284 284 330 39 5718 59 3906 89
706 547 453 656 6 456 110 313 436 386 40 5320 49 3282 82
574 427 477 671 117 612 114 118 432 342 344478 50 2562 90
669 350 495 659 32 556 117 118 540 501 51 5138 49 2100 90
735 599 563 656 479 619 289 591 591 543 59 5662 51 3594 116 **State Resist was 52.1%@ 479 intel
680 471 438 632 5 444 100285 267 264 27 5130 472826 79
622 111 208373 155 207 74 34 116 227 184446 28666 45
551 347 356 553 122 463248 83 284 459 41 4168 43 2082 69
658 484 760 720 1757 150 509 638 549 595416 54 2904 134 **StateResist was 11.0%@ 1 intel
545 367 784 749 85 719 139 210 255 316 32 4645 56 2202 134

It takes almost as long to get the formatting right on this as it did to do the testing.

Most of these samples were from Endor and were combined into razor cat skins to help limit skin mods (if there are any).

I hope these numbers help, Dor. If you pm me with your e-mail address, I can send the excell spreadsheet to you. Help keep you from typing in all these numbers..lol.

Message Edited by Aleskander on 05-31-2005 07:41 PM

I charted the values from this morning. This is what I found:

Hardiness: Health Seems to be scattered. ie 658 hardiness gives 5416 health while 706 hardiness only gives 5320. Something else is affecting health.

Endurance: Health Regen Rate Stright line. The higher the endurance the higher the health regen.

Fortitude: General Protection (Base Armor) Stright line. The higher the Fortitude, the higher the armor value.

Dexterity: Defense Value Another stright line, but seems to level off at 134 max. 760 and 784 Dex both give 134 def value.

Cleverness: To Hit Value Stright line, the higher the Cleverness, the high the to-hit value.

Power: Min/Max Damage Stright line on min and max damage, the higher the Power, the higher the damage.

Intellect: Reduces the effectiveness of intimidated, stun, dizzy, and blinded state effects.* This is another one that jumps around. 64 intel gives 12.2% while 60 intel gives 17.6

Fierceness: Adds a small chance for each attack to be a critical hit. Stright line, the higher the Fierceness the higher the chance for crit hit.

Dependability: Adds a small chance for the creature to absorb half damage on a hit (critical save). Stright line, the higher theDependability the higher the chance for crit save.

Courage: Aggro generation bonus added to normal attacks. Stright line with only 1 execption and that might have been my mistake writting it down.

I've also noticed health not being in line with hardiness. I have 4 pets with all exactly the same fortitude:CL45, CL51, CL55, CL75. Here's what I can rule out: not CL, not power, not fierceness, not dependability, not courage, not cleverness,not endurance.

So either fortitude, dexterityor intellect. I'm guessing fortitude as this looks like the best correspondence. Unless it's more complex and it's a number of factors combined.

Message Edited by BraccusD on 08-17-2004 08:53 PM

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BraccusD wrote:

I've also noticed health not being in line with hardiness. I have 4 pets with all exactly the same fortitude:CL45, CL51, CL55, CL75. Here's what I can rule out: not CL, not power, not fierceness, not dependability, not courage, not cleverness, not dexterity, not endurance.

So either fortitude or intellect. I'm guessing fortitude as this looks like the best correspondence. Unless it's more complex and it's a number of factors combined.

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Fort is armor which has a big impact on CL. Intel has an impact, but not nearly as much as Fort.

Excellent information here. Many thanks from a new Master Bio-Engineer.

I did a run of pets last night, testing to see if I could approximate level from my experiments. I managed to make several level 35s in a row.

Many thanks!

informative post yet confusing to me...

Dorelli, here's another datapoint for you.

Teplate stats
Hard 847
Fort 702
Dex 742
End 814
Int 230
Clev 740
Dep 290
Cour 289
Fierce 628
Power 538

Pet Stats
CL 65
Health 6640
Regen 62
Armor 4212
Def 138
To Hit 155
State Resist 33.19%
Critical Hit 5.02%
Critical Save 2.32%
Aggro Bonus 7.22%
Damage 95-383


This pet was made with non-elite post CU DNA collected and rafted after publish 19.

Message Edited by PlainWhiteSocks on 06-06-2005 03:57 PM

Ok, I think I've found that dexterity does impact health in a small way. The primary weight is hardiness, secondary is dexterity. Here's the data:

H F D E I C D C F P

CL51: 1149 1452 434 25 285 132 129 262 443 = 8254 health

CL45: 114939 581 425 201 279 117 49 250 363 = 8429 health

CL55: 1149 44 585 439 205 284 127 125 259 459 = 8437 health

CL75: 1149 507 770 739 224 811 728 240 358 567 = 8675 health

So with the above data I see either Fortitude, dex, or intellect being options....then I got the next 2:

CL39: 592 406 365 536 211 360 267 136 210 429 = 4454 health

CL52: 557 277 549 217 182 240 142 145 296 574 = 4462 health

So here, we see even with higher hardiness, the higher dex caused a higher health.

Thus, I think dex plays a part in health.... Not sure what the factor is, maybe we can try to crunch some numbers based off that.