Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: A Tale of Woe
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SkyPreacher1
Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:56 am
#1
Greetings fellow BE's
I know my sig says MCH but my other Character Aturius is a Master BE on Kauri server.
Let me share my tale of DNA woe.
Yesterday, I decided that my master CH really needed a really nice pet, ssoooooooooooo i took aturius to Dathomir to collect some Mutant Rancor DNA and look for the elusive Juvenile Malkoc Plainswalker. Then the plan was to head off to endor to pick up some arachne poison (not sure if this is the best poison in the game or not open to suggestions here) and maybe some barkmite burrower disease.
I arrive on Dath, run in clone, pull on my scent camo clothes that pushes me over the +100 mark, head out to the sarlacc pit to find some mutant rancors. I got distracted, Rhoa Kwi guardians, I just had to have some of that, so I stopped, a swig of jawa beer, some brandy, canapes and sneak in. One poke one DNA sample. Yes, two pokes ohoh Rhoa Kwi kills me.
Back at the cloning center I think ok I didn't come here for Rhoa Kwi, keep focused. So off I go again, Gaping Spider Hunter, got him. At about a 1000 meters I park my bike and walk into the pit. I dodge some night sister and keep going. Ahh some regular Rancors, better do a practice run. I get all the samples from one rancor and it expires. Yes, this is working, let me try the next one, aggro, dead, clone, restart.
Back to where I started, focus Mutant Rancors, ok. Finally after much evasion i spot them. 5 of them, I begin the tedious walk in at 45 meters they break my scent. Stop, re-mask, 10 steps, they break it again. Stop, the nearest on agros, I run, it stops, I walk back. 65 meters they break it again. I stop. Re mask 40 meters, broke again, stop RRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUNNNN. Phew. Start again. at 40 meters i start to crawl. Mask scent in place, crawl crawl crawl. 10 meters attemp to get dna. Oh yeah you can't do that from a prone position. type /stand. Stand up agro dead.
There has to be a way to do this without dying, anyone got some suggestions.
PurpleWarrior
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:00 am
#2
if you have a spawn of 5 it is hard work. If possible try to lure one or two of them away and lose aggro, or kill a couple and lose aggro.
Once there are 3 or less of them in range, the maskscent breaks a lot less...
(Used to be easier in UO *grins* just lure and then cast 'invisibility' on yourself.. ah Fantasy Worlds... )
NancyJ
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:01 am
#3
I find that sometimes its easy and sometimes its damn near impossible, I think the creature AI may be more advanced than we give it credit, I swear at some times of the day they're more active and alert, and other times you can run right up and /dance with them and they wont notice.
Though with a good set of ubese you shouldnt die
Though with a good set of ubese you shouldnt die
SkyPreacher1
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:07 am
#4
Well you see it's like this.
My uber combat profession on Aturius is, you ready, now don't start laughing ok. His uber combat profession is (drum roll please) Musician.
So he is a master Musician, master BE. Now how much more uber can you get than that.
I am also an Imperial but I know for a fact that if I pulled an AT-ST to go with me to provide support, 1) It won't attack non faction targets like rancors and 2) Some dweeb Reb with TKM or Rifleman would feel obligated to kill it so no, when I run out to do Rancors I don't have a combat profession to fall back on just fast running.
Ariven
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:41 am
#5
SkyPreacher1 wrote:
Oh yeah you can't do that from a prone position. type /stand. Stand up agro dead.
Detection and agro is partially based on your posture. Can you sample DNS from kneeling? If so instead of trying standing try going to the kneel state. I find it works noticbly better than standing at reducing agro.
Depending on how fleet of foot you are you can pull a single rancor with a little work... it pulls it agro but that lets you lose it in the wilds and go back to a smaller group to work from (and sometimes that single one)...
Just unmask and /walk up to about 21 meters away from the rancor furthest away from other rancors, then turn and run.... if done right you should agro just the single rancor or maybe one other as well. Once you get the group a little smaller you have fewer mask checks...
furrycat
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:54 am
#6
Bizarrely enough you can sample while crawling. "Go figure" as they say. As I have stated in another thread, walking 1m, pausing a second or two the walking 1m, pausing etc etc has worked better for me than even crawling towards the beast. Sure it takes time but that is made up for by not having to run away and come back when you get aggro.
NancyJ
Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:06 am
#7
/cheer for another noncombat BE 
As someone mentioned you can sample whilst crawling, if you do this just at the time when you get a message whether you succeed or fail, then your character stands up to do the animation, if you hit sample again just when this happens, you're ok and dont need to crawl again to start sampling.
I went DNA sampling yesterday for Mutant Rancors and I was having great luck, hardly any aggro, mask scent was holding, I could run right up to them no problem, then as the day went on they got kinda cranky all of a sudden, moving around, stomping their feet and I couldnt get anywhere near them, let alone sample.... very strange indeed, next time I shall record the game time
As someone mentioned you can sample whilst crawling, if you do this just at the time when you get a message whether you succeed or fail, then your character stands up to do the animation, if you hit sample again just when this happens, you're ok and dont need to crawl again to start sampling.
I went DNA sampling yesterday for Mutant Rancors and I was having great luck, hardly any aggro, mask scent was holding, I could run right up to them no problem, then as the day went on they got kinda cranky all of a sudden, moving around, stomping their feet and I couldnt get anywhere near them, let alone sample.... very strange indeed, next time I shall record the game time
dbl90
Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:10 pm
#8
I was SF after a major PvP battle, and went to pull out my three narglatches in a star port....
Then....two jedi came...I died...
My female narglatch pet lost 4 vp from 1 pvp incap....
Isn't going to be fixed by anyone iether.
Anyone else having problems with this?
theorb22
Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:12 pm
#9
dbl90 wrote:
I was SF after a major PvP battle, and went to pull out my three narglatches in a star port....
Then....two jedi came...I died...
My female narglatch pet lost 4 vp from 1 pvp incap....
Isn't going to be fixed by anyone iether.
Anyone else having problems with this?
That doesn't make sense, PvP vit loss might be broken (Again, yipee!) right now, but it still stays at 2 loss for incap and 2 more loss for autostore while im a corpse for me, I dunno how your losing 4 points if their not autostoring....
Meuw
Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:36 pm
#10
Check the interveiw on swgcreatures.com, the upper development has said in no uncertain words that pets are to NEVER be allowed back into PvP. Welcome to the new world.
Redheadedminx
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:03 am
#12
oh thats not fair for CH or MCH who like doing PvP! How dare they! (ohhh.. am all cross and I don't even do PvP!)
So when are they going to nerf the Jedi super healing skills then hmm? Am getting really chessed off that unless ur a Jedi in this game, ur considered a worthless cause. *fumes*
They may as well just change it to "Jedi Wars"
Ch and MCH is a skill, just as worthy and as good as any other on this game. SoE better beware, I've noticed a massive increase of novice CH since the release of the Total Experience and unless they are careful, they will lose a lot of new customers.
Jamila
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:15 am
#13
The Jedi healing nerf begins in the next publish! . . . can't seem to find the link, but they have increased Jedi healing costs across the board. Also, the Jedi Avoid Incap has a higher force cost.
-Jamila
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