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Thread: need help with some pricing

sanibak
Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:42 pm
#1


I recently made a pet on request and am having a hard time pricing it.


Narglatch

CL 26

Health: 8127

Action: 9330

Mind: 8360

Kinetic: 23

Energy: 23

Blast: Vuln

Heat: 11

Cold: Vuln

Electricity: 11

Acid: Vuln

Stun: Vuln

Attack Speed: 2.39

To-hit: .39

Damage: 120-130

Special-1: Knockdown

Special-2: Strong Poison

No Ranged


I have never been good at pricing anything and I haven't seen any pets like this in the BE vendors I've checked so I've come here hoping for a bit of help.


Thanks in advance


Sanibak
Tal-N
Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:47 pm
#2

Surprizes me when people cant think for themselves, if this was somethingi made it would be 26k.



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Dr_Wookie
Sun Jan 25, 2004 5:28 pm
#3

Well the way I look at it people need a starting point with certain things they may not be accustomed to. Pricing is one of them. Many players know how to shoot, but trying to fit into an economic system on a serverwhere they don't stand out as the red-headed stepchild because of their pricing is difficult. Now that he has sogallantly been given a price for this pet, he may now move on into the Galaxies world and base all of his ensuing pets on this one. Good luck



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RasoC
Sun Jan 25, 2004 5:37 pm
#4

By my pricing your pet is worth 94k. I dont' know what pricing system Tal-N uses, but i don't think he has any comprehension of how complex clone crafting is since the BE revamp. It seems to me that 26k would have been the charge prior to BE's having to collect appropriate level'd DNA and all the costs that that insues (travel, cloning, insuring, spice, etc...)



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monkeysan
Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:49 pm
#5






Tal-N wrote:

Surprizes me when people cant think for themselves, if this was somethingi made it would be 26k.







Completely unnecessary Tal-N. Just because someone asks for help, it DOES NOT FOLLOW that they can't think for themselves.


Besides illustrating a fallacy your response is rude.


Chill out.

Space_Gunny
Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:36 am
#6

I would price it as follows:



CL 26= Cl x 1000= 26,000


Knockdown= 10,000


Strong poison= 15,000



Total Price= $51,000







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Agen Kolar-ITEC (Shipwright/Weaponsmith)
Kurran Bekar-ITEC (Doctor/TKA)
Raien Keth- ITEC (Dancer/Musician/Tailor)
Khaemir Sarin- ITEC (Swordsman/TK/Fencer)
Kevie
Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:51 am
#7

i use space_gunny's formula but also add for kinetic/energy resist (don't bother with the others, they're mostly useless except in pvp)

hope that helps




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Tarnblade
Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:47 am
#8

Newsflash



Most creature handlers dont really care about Specia attack 1 or 2 that BE add to their pets.



Yes its nice but its not what keeps the pet or yourself alive.



What ill pay good money for is Armour & High resists of 40 % - 60%


And other nice gen resists across the board.



That pet is only worth about 25 - 26 k tops



91 k and 51k are just silly money for such a low pet with such low stats.


Space_Gunny
Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:10 am
#9

Tarnblade,


Actually I have been Master Creature Handler for a long, long time. The Special Attacks are wanted and needed by CHs. While I agree with you that kinetic and energy resists along with armor are important, it is the specials that help deal out the damage. If this pet had armor I would have added 10K more. Kinetic resist above 50% adds another 10K.


As far as pricing, these prices are actually very competitive. We have a very hard time keeping pets in stock.





Eeten Keth-ITEC (Creature Handler/Rifleman)
Agen Kolar-ITEC (Shipwright/Weaponsmith)
Kurran Bekar-ITEC (Doctor/TKA)
Raien Keth- ITEC (Dancer/Musician/Tailor)
Khaemir Sarin- ITEC (Swordsman/TK/Fencer)
Vife
Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:29 am
#10

26K


I usually charge 1K per CL for anything without armor and 2K per cl for anything with armor.


Tal-N
Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:11 am
#11




By my pricing your pet is worth 94k. I dont' know what pricing system Tal-N uses, but i don't think he has any comprehension of how complex clone crafting is since the BE revamp. It seems to me that 26k would have been the charge prior to BE's having to collect appropriate level'd DNA and all the costs that that insues (travel, cloning, insuring, spice, etc...)


Yeah, I have utterly no idea how complex the new system works.... or maybe I'm just capable of making clones faster and with less hassle because I'm a Ranger as well.



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Castillo
Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:30 am
#12

I agree with Tal-N, 26k seems ok.


Something I always think about when pricing pets is comparing them to wild creatures. A CH can get a boar wolf from the wild, that is 9k hams , 50% kinetic and other ok resists for CL25.

Tarnblade
Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:35 am
#13

Id have to say id still be somewhat anoyd to pay extra for somthing that doesnt allways work and is basically still a very iffy.



Pet specials at the moment dont work 100% of the time.

You lucky if they work once in a round somtimes.


And thats if you setup a macro of Follow target and then do special 1 or special 2


So its kind of broke atm




I also happen to have a BE pet that supposed to have a ranged attack, yet it cant be taught ranged.


And other BEpets that are supposed to have specials but when examined when there out, dont display there supposed specials.







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