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Taruk

Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:34 pm

Since I'm a MBE, and this seems like mostly a BE issue...I'm posting this question here. I tried searching this board and the CH boards but I couldn't find the info I was looking for. So, sorry if this has been beaten to death already.

Say, a non-ch type person buys a level 10 pet (onethat he can call). How does he train it without CH skills? Doyou take it to a MCH, and ask him very, very nicelyto train it foryou then /transfer it back to you? I know it sounds like a noob question, and as a MBE I'm rather embarrassed to be asking it. But, I've never made a pet for sale, so I've never thought about it before.

Thanks, in advance.

Teruk Karapleides

Master Bio-Engineer/ Master Dabbler

Bria

cwhippie

Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:04 pm

#2

If someone buys an unTamed pet, yes they will have to ask a CH to tame it and train it for them, unless they special order from you and you happen to be able to tame and train it for them(if you are a CH).

That is why MCH's never run around with thier tag showing, much like MBE, and MSmuggler.

Findywen Tanaburs

Aspiring BE, Eclipse

NancyJ

Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:41 pm

#3

and most MCH's will tell you to stuff it their datapad is full and try to sell you a low level wild pet from their collection.

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Xab_Vierts

Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:40 pm

#4

Non CH pets can, however, be transferred via the datapad, so any level of CH will do to get the basic commands

ArthurDentOnBria

Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:00 pm

#5

That's certainly the way it used to be before the new BE system. I'd slave over making a kahmurra which was comperable to a cowardly gurreck or rock beetle, I'd sell it for 10k or whatever, and then a customer would take it to a CH who had rock beetles for sale for 10k, or who charged 10k for training the pet, lol. That didn't work out so well. Now though, at least we have a compelling product. If a CH tries to sell our customers a carrion spat or lesser plains bol the customer is just going to laugh at them.

NancyJ wrote:
and most MCH's will tell you to stuff it their datapad is full and try to sell you a low level wild pet from their collection.

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MrHawat

Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:49 am

#6

Most CH keep at least 1 open slot in their inventory. The problem your customers may be running into is some of you customers expect us to train and tame for free. They feel they paid the BE a ton for the thing and can be quite rude when, after spamming tells to a MCH who is in the middle of a mission, and learning some will not drop what they are doing and travel to them to tame it for free. Besides missions, this is the only revenue left to use after the last round. Mounts replaced by vehicles and Pets replaced by BE pets.

On the training question, even a Novice CH can tame the deed but to name it and train it some of the more useful commands like trick, group and others they need a few more boxes of XP. I would suggest you customers ask if the CH can train the commands they want.

Again, since missions are our only real source of revenue, most will not stop in the middle of a 20k mission and travel back to town to train a pet for 1k. I will not. If I happen to be in town and some one asks for training, politely, I train for free. Some of the pet names they ask for are, frankly, embarrassing. I then have to take the time to explain the name filter. Then answer half a dozen questions related to using a pet. It is not unusual for it to take 5 or 10 minutes from start to finish. Some customers are appreciative some are just plain rude. Most CH have given up selling pets completely and would actually be losing money for training. Most could finish a 20k mission in that time frame.

NancyJ

Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:49 am

#7

I wasnt expecting free training and I was only asking the CH in town - all said they were full.

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-51 -5732 Tatooine
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MrHawat

Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:07 am

#8

Well, I can see why this might be. First, CH are now grinding missions for money. They used to keep a slot open in case they came accross a good pet in the wild. Now, since nothing wild comes close to what you create, they just buy what they plan to use and do not need to hold open a valuable slot. The slot is very important to lower level CH's. They do not have many, it takes forever to get XP, and they have to rotate their pets if they can not afford the stims or the downtime to heal a few K of ham per pet per mission. I doubt they are refusing for spite. Most try to be as nice and as helpful as they can be.

Taruk

Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:49 am

#9

Xab_Vierts wrote:

Non CH pets can, however, be transferred via the datapad, so any level of CH will do to get the basic commands

OK, now I am confused. You do not need the /transfer command to do this?

Teruk

MrHawat

Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:11 am

#10

Non-creature handler pets do not require the transfer command and can be traded in the trade window. Any pet CL 11 and above requires the transfer command to be tradable. The last patch moved the transfer command to Master CH. Basically, this means that when a non-master CH trains a deed it can only be used by him until he makes Master if it CL11 or higher pet.

Shaylin

Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:00 pm

#11

Taruk, just remember when making non ch pets, to use non agro skins.

If a non ch buys a lvl 10 choku and hands it to a CH to tame and train, he won't be able to get it back, since you cant give agro pets to non ch folks (they dont have the skill to control agro pets).

To further confuse people who find themselves in this predicament... the error message you get for trying to trade an agro pet to a non CH tells them "they have too many pets already"... and says nothing about the agro problem.

Just a heads up sort of thing.

Cressida

PoffMarko

Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:12 pm

#12

As a Master BE and Master CH I have to agree with MrHawat. I am fortunate to be able to do both. However my datapad is full of beloved pets that I am simply not gonna delete since someone wants there non-ch pet trained.

I try to keep a slot open to occasionally help people outand often people seem to expect this service for free (not everyone). Since selling tamed pets is a no go in my opinion I dont blame a ch for charging 5-10K to train a pet. No real income anymore besides that and missions as indicated. I have received many tells in the middle of a mission or while sampling for assistance. If they are near by I try to be neighborly and help out. And sometimes my datapad is full and I can't take a pet for someone.

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cwhippie

Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:48 pm

#13

Maybe I am wrong, but last I checked CH isnt a crafting class. Why is it so shocking to think that the major source of income for CH's is through missions? Granted they could occasionally make money selling a pet here or there, but income should always have been coming from missions as the primary source of income.

Next thing we will have Pistoleers upset cause they cant sell thier services. for each crafting class there is a combat class, for BE the combat class is CH. why is this so surprising? Heck even as a BE I can nearly make better money doing enraged rancor missions on Dath.

I do agree that I have seen pet stims at a high cost, but I havent begun crafting them yet since I prefer the critter aspect of the profession. so I dont know how much of this is price gauging and how much is legit.

Findywen Tanaburs

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