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...what is a 'decent' pet? Could it be you are searching for something that is long since nerfed?
How can you be sure that if you do spend the points in BE you will know any more what you're doing than they do?

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NancyJ wrote:
...what is a 'decent' pet? Could it be you are searching for something that is long since nerfed?
How can you be sure that if you do spend the points in BE you will know any more what you're doing than they do?

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No, that is not the problem. I have contacted a good 25 BE's on bloodfin and either they are not making custom pets anymore and only do clothes or they know less than I do. I'm fully aware of the nerfs we have been put through. I had 2 very nice cats made a month ago AFTER the big nerfs that destroyed pets. I have gone to so many different BE shops its ridiculous and they are either totally EMPTY or have 1 or 2 pets that are no higher than CL30.

a month ago the shops had tons of pets to choose from, and the BE's that I had in my friends list that I knew were decent either never get online anymore or they quit BE.

If you know of a decent BE on bloodfin speak up. My other questions about how long does it take to raise BE still stands.

Assuming you have the 120k flora and 80k meat - 12 hours crafting and then as long as it takes you to get up the DNA sampling tree - which can take a few days

As for your cats being made after the big nerfs - the nerfs are happening every patch and its not suprising there are very few bothering to make pets - if you're looking on vendors dont be suprised if you dont find top notch stuff, vendor fodder is usually stuff that didnt make the cut for a custom order in my experience
Ther reason why you dont find much above CL 30 is that from a BE pet perspective, theres not a lot to gain by going much higher than that and in terms of getting the required DNA - the risks far outweigh the gains in many ways.
If you can get 60% Kinetic and energy with AR1 with decent ham below CL 40 why bother with a massive 30 CL leap to get a few extra resists and few k extra HAM? I know I certainly wouldnt bother for vendor stuff.

If you can get 60% Kinetic and energy with AR1 with decent ham below CL 40

Thats exactly what my cats are. ar1, 60% kinetic, cl30/36.

The problem is I need a few different types of pets for different purposes. I also have 2 friends that need pets. My problem is I cant even find a BE who can have a conversation about it. Whats good for this, whats good for that. ect. Even the CL30's I find on these vendors are no where near as good as my cats. Which I know we have not been nerfed in a way that would change what you can make since I got my cats. You CAN make these exact cats right now.

I have been watching the recipies posts in this forum and have seen some really good setups. I would just like to find a decent BE on bloodfin to have a conversation about it.

I, personally, do not make custom pets anymore. Because a) they are a pain in the hind end to create. You spend hours trying to get this higher or this lower. And b) people like to dicker with the prices you set. If I put a pet on my vendor, they can take it or leave it. My vendor has a very nice stock of pets ranging from CL8 to CL40 right now, and when I get back from Dantooine I will have my over-40's restocked.

For pricing I use BE Calc to calculate my prices. Period. Why? Because it is consistent, and the pricing scheme makes sense and seems fair to me. Plus, you have the capability of pasting exactly how you got the numbers quickly and easily into the seller's comments. I also give credit where credit is due and always leave the BE Calc plug in the comments. BUT for a custom pet I can't do that. I would charge more. And then we get back to dickering again.

And... too bad you aren't on Kettemoor. I have a matched set of Graul CL37 / CL33 AR1, High HAM, Kinetic and Energy resists and I think only vulnerable to stun. I am still debating whether I will use myself or put them up for sale.

I find it interesting that no one has really replied to this thread or my thread in bloodfin. It just reinforces my opinon that no one is making pets anymore.

Shame you aren't on Intrepid. I make pets. I make lots and lots of pets. My vendor currently has over 100 pets from level 10 to level 70 (okay, maybe 69, someone bought one the other day), as well as Pet Stim D's.

I rarely do custom orders anymore. I refer the client to my vendor and make the stipulation that I will *consider* a custom order if they do not find something they love on my vendor. I have yet to have anyone ask me for a custom order after looking at my vendor. They find something they love, they buy it and they /tell me how pleased they are. That's my objective. To make a hellova pet that my client will absolutely fall in love with.

I agree with Nancy, there isn't much reason to make a pet over CL30-35. First of all I refuse to make big pets. Who wants to fight when you can't see what you are doing or what the mob you are attacking is doing. They're also more of a hinderance then a help inside of caves and dungeons. Ever try to do the Warren with two Rancors in the group?

Most of the pets I make a Kimas and Bearded Jax'. They're nice because I can get a good 8k HAM, 50% kinetic, 240-300 damage, w/ Dizzy/Knockdown at around CL28-29. Most CH like these because they're not blocking view and with two of them out they can handle most stuff in the game.

It's amazing what you learn about making pets when you DNA sample everything out there (trying to work on figuring out the formula) instead of sticking with the 5 or 6creatures that everyone here tells BEs to use. Personally I can make a better pet without using Enraged Rancor/Queen spider, etc DNA with MUCH less risk to myself. Last night alone I was able to get 30 DNA samples from a creature that will probably yield some very awesome pets.

Anyway...

I mastered Bioeng yesterday and Im on bloodfin. I haven't found any really good bioeng shops and I've looked all over corellia and outside bestine and in many tatooine player cities. I can also say that I will not be MBE long because theres no reason to make CL10 pets as they will be nerfed again soon and there is no way to tell what will be acceptable afterward. After that the only fun thing to do is to make creatures higher than 10 and there just isn't a big enough Creature Handler community to make that worth while. Other than that I cant find anybody selling wookiee bioeng clothing which really bugs me. Maybe Ill just make some tissues and call it quits. Ive already made a durni with rancor dna