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Thread: Is it possable to make a jedi killer pet?

Karena-Kurri
Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:35 pm
#1

a pet with light armor as high of lightsaber risstence as possable and a dot attack? Possable if so info as much as you can please for the Bounty hunter world.
IagIag
Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:39 pm
#2

what timing! I was just going to post on that issue. I noticed yesterday that "light sabre" resists now show up in my dna samples. I was on endor all day I found NO animals yet that aren't "100% vulnerable" to LS... will keep looking though .. perhaps a Blurgg Raptor (un samplable and part of the pub 10 quests) or Mutant Rancor.. no clue as of yet.
Kevie
Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:47 pm
#3

there is no lightsaber resist on anything at all except portable shield generators


also DOT attacks for pets don't work on command, they just work every now and again (basically whenever they want), knockdown is like this too




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Meplorium
Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:51 pm
#4

I think a few animals have a low light saber resists, which would just make jedi do more damage to them since they would get their AP2 bonus.


Animals in general suck in PvP. When you fight someone that can solo a nightsister elder, don't except your lowly cat, even at CL70, to do much at all to them.



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IagIag
Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:07 pm
#5

you sampled every pet in the galaxy intwo days kevie? or is there a dev board that says what you claimed.. post it please
Bracci
Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:44 pm
#6



IagIag wrote:
you sampled every pet in the galaxy in two days kevie? or is there a dev board that says what you claimed.. post it please




Name one animal OR npc in the game that has resists to lightsaber. Every one I've seen on dath, naboo, and yavin (those are the three planets I've hit since patch) have had that as their vulnerability. Even Ancient Bull Rancors have it as a vuln ffs. Name one that has lightsaber resists or stop with the sarcastic posts.

I thought you were dropping B-E anyway...
DeneziB
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:22 pm
#7

I, too, am searching for a wild animal that isn't vulnerable to lightsabers. I'm hoping something like the animals at POIs. Haven't had the time to check.


Mutant rancors are vulnerable to LS, in case you want to know.


However, pets aren't totally useless in PvP against jedi. Their value comes in their specials. If you have a pet that can intimidate, you'll cut the jedi's massive damage output in half! That in itself can decide which side victory will fall on in a confrontation with a jedi.


There is no doubt that a pet will fall every time, but any edge against a jedi can decide victory.



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Joilhath
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:25 pm
#8

Falling every time is not a bad thing anymore though with this patch and the no vitality loss durring PvP for pets(haven't tested it yet though)



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NAGANO1
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:01 am
#9

Listen


What the jedi want they get. They grinded through the professions and want to keep their uber status. Of course there won't be any pets with light saber resists. Besides Jedi can turn pets back into the wild, so who is going to throw out an uber pet only to have it released again.


Only in this game can huge hulking animals be taken down in a few hits with unarmed ( but highky skilled ), players.


Until the CH get some form of combat rebalance it isn't going to happen. I think the devs still have a bad taste in their mouths from last summer with all the pet wars, that they are scared to give pets any type of real power again.


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Ransaak
Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:44 am
#10

Here's the thing BEs. Us Bounty Hunters wont need a pet with LS resist. Jedis cant and dont solo melee animals. They have crap melee skills. They all level up at Fort Tusken and fight ranged classes where they block all the damn shots. They also dont wear armor.


So as a BH and soon to be MCH (after they release the scout reqs), what I think would be good is a high level animal that just causes as much melee damage per second as possible.


I really dont know the crazy stuff you guys can create in your labs, but but what kind of animal unleases the most melee dmg per second right now?


Thanks BEs.
DataOutlaw
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:22 am
#11






Ransaak wrote:

Here's the thing BEs. Us Bounty Hunters wont need a pet with LS resist. Jedis cant and dont solo melee animals. They have crap melee skills. They all level up at Fort Tusken and fight ranged classes where they block all the damn shots. They also dont wear armor.


So as a BH and soon to be MCH (after they release the scout reqs), what I think would be good is a high level animal that just causes as much melee damage per second as possible.


I really dont know the crazy stuff you guys can create in your labs, but but what kind of animal unleases the most melee dmg per second right now?


Thanks BEs.






1) Pets do kinetic damage only (BE pets even do kinetic damage with ranged attacks) and the Jedi Toughness mods combined with buffs pretty much make this worthless.


2) Increasing DPS increases pet level. A pet that does 500dmg every 2 seconds will be in the CL50 range so you are not going ot use one as a Bounty Hunter, even with your newly available skills points. Pet dmg can be roughly guesstimated by multiplying level by 10. Wh8ile we can boost damage without boosting level it means cutting HAM and resists down to pitifull stats for the level


3) Pets have crap for HAM against a Lightsaber. The best pet I have ever crafted has 13k health and a Jedi will cut through that in a few swipes of the Lightsaber. Remember how Obi-Wan cut down the Acklay in just a few swipes once he picked up a Lightsaber in Episode II? Thats pretty accurate for how Jedi vs. pet goes in SWG too.


4) Your best pet goal as a BH should be to get a pet with Intimidate and Strong Poison attacks. The Intimidate will cut down Jedi dmg output and the Strong Poison (if you are lucky enough to have the pet land one) will do more dmg then any other kind of pet dmg. Plus, you can send in your pet from about 80m before the Jedi really has a chance to see whats going on. Make it a cat type and it will move in pretty darned fast. Make it a gigantor pet like a Bantha and it can help obscure their vision from seeing where you are coming from.
Wokka
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:00 am
#12

What we are missing here are 2 animals. Voxen and Ysalamiri. Voxen are Jedi hunter/killers and Ysalamiri negate force powers. Both exist in the Star Wars universe but not in ours..... yet.


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Kevie
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:26 pm
#13






Wokka wrote:

What we are missing here are 2 animals. Voxen and Ysalamiri. Voxen are Jedi hunter/killers and Ysalamiri negate force powers. Both exist in the Star Wars universe but not in ours..... yet.


Wokka-wokka




i wouldn't mind having my own ysalamiri

Message Edited by Kevie on 07-01-2004 04:26 PM




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