Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Chef Additive Pricing
Thendios wrote:
What do you guys think?
We are certainly in kind of a bind here, what with additives being both resource-heavy AND consumable. Every chef I've spoken to wants CRATES of additives. Now, even charging the going cpu for just the ingredients required to make a crate of 25 would be almost prohibitively expensive...I have no idea what the chefs would then charge for the final product. I would guess food with additives will be 3x non-enhanced food.
I'm thinking we'll have to take a Wal-Mart approach. We will sell much more additives for less profit than our clothing tissues. Personally, i'll just have to weigh how much my time is worth.
Frostbite43 wrote:
We are certainly in kind of a bind here, what with additives being both resource-heavy AND consumable. Every chef I've spoken to wants CRATES of additives. Now, even charging the going cpu for just the ingredients required to make a crate of 25 would be almost prohibitively expensive...I have no idea what the chefs would then charge for the final product. I would guess food with additives will be 3x non-enhanced food.
I'm thinking we'll have to take a Wal-Mart approach. We will sell much more additives for less profit than our clothing tissues. Personally, i'll just have to weigh how much my time is worth.
Im a master Chef and with the help of a BE guild mate I had a Schematic made up for the Intelligent Nanonutrients(?) (the Heavy nutrition additive). I ran off 10 crates which was still running after 18 hours in the factory. My estimate of pricing is the same as yours about 3x the cost of the food it is added to. Resource requirements for these additives is insane, to run off 1000 tissues I need 55,000 organic, 35,000 floral and 20,000 creature food. (and this is the easiest one to make). On top of that once its done I have to add 20 units of water per tissue and run it thru a factory again to get the final food additive. Using a 10 cpu price for you, A chef would be paying 27,500 per crate for these. im not sure how many chef's are interested in paying that kind of money. But i could easily see paying 15k a crate myself. Although if the demand for food with these additives becomes great enough, then I will be forced to pay upwards of 30k a crate (and I will).
Personally I think this revamp is going to make a lot of chefs become BE tissue dabblers. we can buy the meat and harvest the rest. A new common template for BE might be 0-3-0-4, especially if the food additives are priced to high or if the BE community is more intererested in making Creatures instead of food additives (btw nothing wrong with that).
Well thats my 2 creds worth on this topic.
Starla Windwalker Master Chef / Master Artisan / Merchant
Silver City Naboo, Bria
VigilanteFA wrote:
I looked in the Chef forum last night and decided I am not going to make Chef tissues. Most chefs sell only crates of their products, hence they need crates from us. They want tissues in the hundreds.SinceI need my factories forall the other things that we make and those donot needa large run of items, I am only going to make schematics for chefs and let them use their factories time. For those who dont know, you'll need a data droid for this. It can be done through the bazaar too, but I prefer the droid method. I'm planning on charging 10K per schematic, a number mentioned on the Chef forum for such a service.
As a master Chef, I would gladly pay you 10k for a schematic. I would even go so far as to pay you 10k per level of the additive. So 10k for light, 20k for medium and 30k for heavy. Any BE's on Bria that are interested look me up.
Starla Windwalker Master Chef / Master Artisan / Merchant
Silver City, Naboo Bria
my 2 cents.
10k for a shematic is insane and ruin our whole class.... maybe i should ask an armorsmith to make me some shematics and then go to make some millions with it..... no armorsmith will do such a thing, so why should WE give OUR business out of our hands ?
to answer the main question : i am selling the boosters for 15cpu of ressources right now (800-1600 per item) and chefs paying that price. thats a fair deal for both sides.
Tygi - Gorath
Well, as everyone knows, you can sell good quality meat for 20cpu on the bazar all day long and it will sell out instantly. You can also sell good flora for 5cpu the same way. So there comes a point where if your end product isn't worth as much as the materials themselves, that it's pointless making the end product.
Just for comparison's sake, lets compare against probably our best selling tissue, the active bio sensor. Judging by the endless pricing threads we have here on this forum, a reasonable (say +14) bio sensor generally sells for between 2.5k and 3.5k/tissue. It requires 55 meat and 25 flora. If you were to use the 10cpu pricing on this tissue, it would sell for 800cr which is not even one-third of the price. So anyone who sells chefs additives at this price, is losing the opportunity to make 3x more using those same materials making tailor tissues instead.
SirMixMaster wrote:
Using a 10 cpu price for you, A chef would be paying 27,500 per crate for these. im not sure how many chef's are interested in paying that kind of money. But i could easily see paying 15k a crate myself. Although if the demand for food with these additives becomes great enough, then I will be forced to pay upwards of 30k a crate (and I will).