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Thread: realy BE takes 12 hours just in grinding?
and of course this all costs you a crap load of cash 
but if ur a chef / tailor then you should have no probs in that department... i hear they're rolling in dough (no pun intended but nonetheless appreciated if you laugh).
Thx
thats a **edit** load of wild meat, and flora is well... easy to get. So its all free if you plan it out
Taken from FAQ: From Novice BE, grind Constrictor Cloths until you get Tissues I. In practice mode they will offer you 110xp per cloth. Then, grind Micronutrient Supplements up to Tissues 3 (same XP, but less meat required); requires a food & chemical crafting tool. Finally, grind Broad Spectrum Nutrients or Scent Camouflage from there until Master; requires sitting in front of a crafting droid or personal crafting station (not a public one).
Assuming you grind Constrictor Clothes to Tissues 3 (don't bother doing the other **edit**...lol), to get Tissues 3 you need 90k Crafting XP. Now, 90.000/110=818. So you have to make 818 of these. As each one take 6-7 seconds to make (we assume 7 seconds just to be sure), you have to spend 818*7=5726 seconds. WHich is 5726/3600=2 hours approximately.
Now you should have Tissues 3. You get 176 XP per Broad Spectrum Nutrients in practice mode (we are using practice in the macro). You can only get 4-4-0-4 by crafting, the other one is DNA sampling. So from here on you need 420k crafting XP. How many you need to make: 420.000/176=2387. How many seconds it takes: 2387*7=16709. How many hours that is: 16709/3600=4,641 approximately. So in total you need to spend 6,461 hours of solid crafting.
I have changed the macro so you can spend 4 seconds of loading resources. It's not hard to to that as you only need to click on 3 things. Let's say it takes 1 second to load up the schematic in a lag free environment. So it takes 5 seconds in total to make one. Now let's see how much time it takes. According to my calculations, it would take approximately 4,45 hours to get 4-4-0-4.
Now we have DNA sampling left. For this I use this really good macro:
/ui action targetSelf;
/ui action cycleTargetOutward;
/follow;
/pause 15;
/sampledna;
/pause 10;
/stopfollow;
/pause 55;
/ui action toolbarSlot11;
Clean your inventory so you have 0/60. Place your important things in your backpack so you won't use inventory space. Go to Theed and place your character in a "trash" dense area. Go to options and maximize field of view. Scroll out and press ctrl+shift+s so you will automatically rotate. Now, place this macro on F12 (NOTE: Don't place it on shift+F12). Activate it and let the XP roll in. Go and eat something, watch something or television or feed the dog or... you get it ; ). Come back within 2 hours. Type /dump so the macro stops. Clear your inventory space. Don't bother saving the DNA, it sucks. Activate the macro again. You can leave the computer on over the night and come back to find yourself with at least 5520 DNA sampling XP. And you don't have to do anything, good huh!? When you get DNA sampling 3. Go to Dantooine and sample from picket longhorns. And after this, your Master Bio-Engineer and can make UBER PETS. Hope you have found this usefull, cheers!
Lunden (SWG name: Wookare Extar. Europe-Chimeara)
Actually that's incorrect. After all that you're be a Master Bio-Engineer andyou probably won'thave any idea how to make 'UBER PETS' or anything else. So make sure you read all the stickied threads at the top of the forum. At least that will give you some idea of what you're supposed to know.
Lunden wrote:
And after this, your Master Bio-Engineer and can make UBER PETS. Hope you have found this usefull, cheers!
Lunden (SWG name: Wookare Extar. Europe-Chimeara)
Message Edited by Kevm on 05-12-2004 11:48 AM
Wow Lunden found an amazingly bad way to grind BE lol....you want to grind sampling FIRST. He's right in essence, grind on yard trash to sampling II, then head to Dant and do Piket mission lairs. Assuming you have maskscent (if you dont, go get maskscent, you cant be BE without maskscent...) you can milk pikets while you sample them (and even after you sampekill them too lol, eww) and get a buttload of milk, which if its HQ you can sell to buy more grinding meator if its LQ you can use to grindwith. PPWs give about 100 milk each, so it quickly adds up to several K.
If you could mentally stand doing8 hours of solid sampling, I still doubt you'd have enough to make sampling IV and spend the other 4, as the guide implied, solidly crafting to round out 4404 in under 12h - we'll assume the guide'sessentially correct though I know its not, BSN yield 168xpinpractice mode and you can make them by a public FnCstation, or at least I could by the Coronet station, though I suppose that may just be because there's so many FnC droids always called near it. You have to factor a lot of time grinding sampling intotransit time between lairs, mind bar downtime, failed samplings which net no XP, and aggroing which cost you a minute or so of incap time (its better to sample /peacedand let them incap you for 60s then get up and try again than to try and run away and lose the aggro).
The guide's auto-sampling macro is not very efficenteither, as you're likely to just chase mobs out of the spawn area and idle when theres no targets in your view area. You can quickly collect 60 samples from yard trash anyway, which will net you a whole 6000 exp assuming about 100 per sample, then you'll just keep failing and triggering aggros the rest of the night.
So basically, in conclusion, you can grind4404 as fast as any other pure crafter profession, but its the sampling tree thats the sticker andwill be your major time sink mastering BE.
TimaxMidget wrote:
realy BE takes 12 hours just in grinding?