Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Getting to know you and your profession!
droid327
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:49 pm
#105
Talk to NancyJ. She's one of the most in-touch correspondents in the game, she knows the community - on both sides on the big debates, too - and really understands the most immediate concerns for BE that need to get addressed. She'll be able to give you the straight-and-low better than a lot of vociferous n00bies who all want instant uber godliness and the old BE curmudgeons who all have their own personal crosses =)
That being said, you dont know how gratifying it is to see a red name in this forum!! =D
Message Edited by droid327 on 09-14-2004 07:50 PM
mturnage
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:03 pm
#106
Well, if you really wanna know I want the LLC ripped out of the profession and replaced with a Bounty Rifles line which would include a rifle cert for us and us only, like the Scatter. Then add a carbine cert for us and us only, to balance it out. Then remove the weapon switch delay or, make the master box worthwhile by removing the delay when you reach Master. Then make at least one of our specials target a specific pool at at least a 3x damage modifier and put said special at the 4th box of the weapon line (you know, like torso shot). Go with the norm, pistols-health, carbine-action, rifles-mind. Then, to put us on par with the other combat professions sprinkle both ranged and melee defenses throughout the trees. Finally, add humanoid traps to the investigation line and change the name to Apprehension or something similar.
Oh yeah, while you are at it, fix Fastblast.....
Chaind2f8
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:16 pm
#107
Well I'm having a hard time narrowing it down to just one issue. There's actually two issues that I have with the current state of Bounty Hunter.
1. Currently our mission payout for Bounty Hunting is hardly worthwhile. I could take enraged rancor missions on Dathomirfor 40k and do two in a matter of 15-20 minutes. A BH mission is only worth, at best, 23000 and requires 30 minutes or more dependant on certain circumstances. This really needs to be addressed as the only reason I became a Bounty Hunter was to hunt bounties - not Rancors.
2. The Bounty Hunter profession (along with all other ranged professions) is severely unbalanced with melee professions at the moment. I dropped MBH to get TKM about two months ago and it's amazing how much faster I can kill high con monsters with ease. Even with the skill point requirement to attain Bounty Hunter reduced it is still crippling to dump so many points into Master Marksman and a line of Scout. If you decide to go the melee route (which is currently the only way to survive against good PVPers) you're left without enough points to effectively dabble and ALL your BH points dumped into useless skills.
Those are the two main issues that I have right now. Of course there is the hope that someday in the future we'll get player bounties but that's not really an issue but a future wishlist.
Bryan1138
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:33 pm
#108
Tiggs wrote:
Since I am the new kid on the block I would like to take a little survey to see what you feel is the most pressing issue with your profession right now. Wait! Don't post just yet, seriously think about this for a moment and post what "you" feel is important, not what you think the overall class feels is important. (Flamers, trolls need not reply).
There are no promises being made that you will see immediate changes implemented. This is simply to gauge what you feel is important so that I can discuss this further with the team. I am going through a few professions at a time so if you don't see this post in another forum you participate in, do not worry. I will get to the other forums in due time
Thanks in advancefor taking the time out to do this.
P.S.
Iam well aware of the sticky issues threads on the forum and the excel sheets that ThunderHeart has. The reason(s) "I" am doing this is 1. to get to know you, 2. get a better feel about your posting styles and 3. Gather fresh feedback from the community. If you feel like you are repeating yourself then please feel free to opt out of posting in this thread.
OK, for me the biggest remaining issue is the special heavy weapon tree (LLC). It has only one weapon in it with one damage type. Bounty hunters should be specialists not only of tracking prey, but finding their weakness and using the appropriate tool against them. BH has the LLC (and scatter at novice). The heavy weapon tree should be populated with more exotic and interesting weaponry. Think Boba or Jango Fett - flame throwers, jet packs, darts, harpoons, nets, blasters, etc. Well armed with unique weapons.
The recent reduction in skill cost has helped with diversification of the profession, but has not made it stand out as unique from other professions.
ThorrValcyn
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:59 pm
#109
Well, if you really wanna know I want the LLC ripped out of the profession and replaced with a Bounty Rifles line which would include a rifle cert for us and us only, like the Scatter.
I would lovemy assasin /sniper rifle thingy !!! 
Joilhath
Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:12 pm
#110
Chuckle..Well I have to agree it sure is nice to see a red name post in the forum! As one of those old BE curmudgeons I think someone stole my cross.
I have two major issues that have affected my enjoyment of the profesion. The invalid pet checks and their reason for creation is the biggest. After that it has to be having a cap on the sampling I want to be able to sample EVERYTHING let me worry about getting it under the useable cl70.
Oh had to add as one of those old curmudgeons I remember not losing your DNA when you crit failed I want it back. Nothing worse than spending a couple hours getting DNA to put it together and in the end have it all be for nothing because you crit failed on either the template assembly or the pet assembly. DNA is much harder to come by than large amounts of harvested resourses yet Architects keep their resources?
Message Edited by Joilhath on 09-15-2004 09:23 AM
Masen
Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:15 pm
#111
I've dabbled in BE a few times...here's my two credits
No more losing DNA samples if you're a master BE? I mean..those things are NOT easy, and losing an hour's work sampling from rancors , over a single failed experimentation point is bad enough, but to lose the results entirely, I once criticalled an entire SIXTY samples in a ROW, 12 failures, and lost ALL the dna I'd gathered in a full 2 days. By the way, that was the day I gave it up, deleted all my stuff and closed that account. That was just too much, to say the least. 2 days of crawling around in muck getting KOed by rancor repeatedly, just to blow it all because of a totally random freak 1 in a million occurance. Immersive? Sure. Fun? not a chance. I can go lose my job, my home, blow my bank account, and end up with nothing in my hands, but I don't exactly look forward to that, and facing that kind of loss in a game too..well, you all ever think maybe people play to take a BREAK from the stress of all that?
How about create all new creature skins for the CH. Hybrids, new textures, bumpmaps, whatever. BE pets should look different than wild ones, vastly different. BE pets should be lowered to be no stronger than a CH can find wild. The bonuses come in tradeoffs. A BE can make a new pet with light armor, high hams, but almost no damage for example, a specialized tank. Or a fast moving creature, with high stamina, as a mount, etc. A CH can get you a dewback just like the films, a BE can custom make you a monster to just how you like it, but can't make the ones you'll see runnign around outside town.
At the very least, give BEs some more options for pets. More skins. Ability to choose furry/scaly/feathery textures for each. More colors (yes, outlandish neon ones too. Ever see tropical fish? Tropical Birds? butterflies? Snakes? Frogs? A LOT of color out there, why can't a BE make them all? )
Masen
Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:36 pm
#112
Some ideas
Player Bounties for players with High Negative faction with Imp, Jabba, Valerian, or Rebel (the 4 that are likely to put a BH after you)
Fast switch as part of the investigation line, with complete elimination of delays at master BH.
All languages at MBH. Just like a smuggler, they deal with all sorts of scum too.
A bonus to payouts in NORMAL missions involving npcs, in Investigation line. Say 25% at master.
Increase payout of missions. While on a mission, any shuttle tickets are free at master BH. If a client wants the best to do the work, they'll be willing to pay travel expenses. A scaling reduction in the Investigation tree, perhaps 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, then free at master.
Jedi bounties moved to master BH, to cut down dabblers. Player bounties at Investigation 3. Jedi at Master.
Smuggler visibility, for slicing terminals, etc, that will put them on the BH lists.
Self destruct module for droids. Used in a tracking droid, if it is attacked the droid will detonate, same as a bomb droid. Just like the Probot in ESB.
Dag_Benhameen
Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:47 pm
#113
Eggs:Dance and music wound healing tissues take eggs. Collecting enough eggs for even a small run of crates (4-5) can take an entire evening. This ends up making clothing w/ entertainer mods a lot more expensive and harder to find than any other mods. Please either increase the number of eggs normally pulled out of a lair or increase the frequency of eggs in general (decreasing the live samples).
thx
JeebusCrisp
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:25 pm
#114
Mainly, I feel the need to dabble in other professions to be an effective Bounty Hunter is the worst commentary on the state of the profession today.
There are MANY different variables which apply to this, the LLC tree, the weapons delay switch, the lack of decent defense. However, all of these contribute to the same thing.
A Bounty Hunter AS a Bounty Hunter is woefully underpowered compared to other professions for their intended job application.
There are MANY different variables which apply to this, the LLC tree, the weapons delay switch, the lack of decent defense. However, all of these contribute to the same thing.
A Bounty Hunter AS a Bounty Hunter is woefully underpowered compared to other professions for their intended job application.
Recsa
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:39 pm
#115
Hi,
Pls dont read my words as rude one, my english isnt too good, so they can sound a bit ... like a rant, they arent.
Those of us that can remember the day TH got into the SOE team, im sure can also remember the tons of posts pretty similiar to this "Getting to know you ..." posts that Tiggs is "spaming" now. From those days we know exactly what are those post for ... NOTHING, cant remember almost one single thing that has been implemented.
1) 1.3 years after release every one knows exactly what every single profession top issues are.
2) Thats the reason Correspondants exists
I really cant see the point on those posts, to be honest looks like "throw a bit of bread to them while you learn your job". You jave to learn your job? perfect dont loose your time neither our time with those useless posts that are just ignored, just talk with devs, study the documentation, ....
If you want to know about what players feel regarding their professions ask Correspondants.
Pls dont read my words as rude one, my english isnt too good, so they can sound a bit ... like a rant, they arent.
Those of us that can remember the day TH got into the SOE team, im sure can also remember the tons of posts pretty similiar to this "Getting to know you ..." posts that Tiggs is "spaming" now. From those days we know exactly what are those post for ... NOTHING, cant remember almost one single thing that has been implemented.
1) 1.3 years after release every one knows exactly what every single profession top issues are.
2) Thats the reason Correspondants exists
I really cant see the point on those posts, to be honest looks like "throw a bit of bread to them while you learn your job". You jave to learn your job? perfect dont loose your time neither our time with those useless posts that are just ignored, just talk with devs, study the documentation, ....
If you want to know about what players feel regarding their professions ask Correspondants.
Malchia
Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:15 pm
#116
You realy want to know..... more the lack of Resist to like dizzy ,kd,stun,Blind,. stuff like that...
And.... BIGGEST is LLC not accuracy nor the speed good 70 acc 60 speed at master is joke. this been prob from day one
We need more gear thats BH only would be nice. maybe some kind other LLC weapons or even something like at master. that would be sweet.
BH are Hunters so give us more gear hunt with and that will up how many people join the class after LLC and resist thing.
and not just that give us Something to Stop Force Run. Anything... Maybe something like trap or something that your trow and stops force run likes clouds there mind or something when they try use it.
I'm been all BH combos I can..
Pistoler master and BH
Carbineer Master and BH
Heavyswords and BH
pistols and carbineer and BH lol
Medic / pistoleer and BH
I all around Been BH for 10 months, and played from Launch.. first week.
BH is very fun but needs more stuff to do, maybe hunt players and or smugglers, or people doing things like getting scaned or something
Most BH don't even hunt jedi or try.
I did and DO alot! Not cause hate Jedi ... Cause Hate seeing so many BH's not do thing to stop there growing
I realy Hope you can Help Tell them some my Info and Ideas cause Love BH class No matter how bad was. onl;y thing hate when nerf weapon changing alittle and more mission pay out should be higher then it is. 100k or 150k whatever it was.
was high but. I think it's to low now. 50k should be range. for killing a jedi. maybe After doing so many missions or even after so long Maybe you can see someone like Fett and he give you title or something. or even Badge thats even better. maybe after killed 50 jedi or 50 smugglers or something cool. or even both.
Just all Ideas. Hope you hear them
Thanks for your time!
Malchia
Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:20 pm
#117
hay thats good Idea.... A dart... to Cloud your mind. and slow force run.. thats good one.. sorry had post again cause was thinking about that. "just Idea"
Darts are good Idea they do and did have them.!
Maybe for other things in pvp vs BH only targets or even pvp too.
sorry for 2nd post ....