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Thread: MILK?

Tansun
Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:07 pm
#66






Penecillian wrote:

Tansom this thing did not only do milk. It harvested Eggs, hides, bones, meat as well. It was a Bio Harvester. All it took was credits and power. Since the one I knew of is gone I have been checking every large flora harvester I come across to see about getting more milk/eggs.








Ok - that I just can't swallow. Such a thing would be so unbalancing it wouldn't be funny. It would make scouts and rangers useless and not needed to gather stuff. They already put in a way to gather eggs, even if it is very time consuming to do so. Such a thing would flood the entire market and destroy what economy there is in SWG.




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JranZu
Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:55 pm
#67






Tansun wrote:





Penecillian wrote:

Tansom this thing did not only do milk. It harvested Eggs, hides, bones, meat as well. It was a Bio Harvester. All it took was credits and power. Since the one I knew of is gone I have been checking every large flora harvester I come across to see about getting more milk/eggs.








Ok - that I just can't swallow. Such a thing would be so unbalancing it wouldn't be funny. It would make scouts and rangers useless and not needed to gather stuff. They already put in a way to gather eggs, even if it is very time consuming to do so. Such a thing would flood the entire market and destroy what economy there is in SWG.





Actually that would be a good thing. Meat and Hindes cost way too much on the Bazaar & Private Vendors... 10cr per unit on average for crap stuff... should be closer to the prices of everything else...



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Canable
Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:03 pm
#68

Dude


That was why i Posted this **edit** in the first place....


My in game girlfriend is a Ranger and thats why i posted becuse i belive that the BIO Harvester Un balances the game


I have been wating for this game for4 years, And once i reslied what the BIO har harvester was capable of Thats when i posted.....


It is really staring to piss me of that people are calling me a lier becuse i am looking out for a game and universe (I.e Starwars) that i love


I am a Starwars nurd aND






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Talthazar
Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:31 pm
#69

Sorry Can, but until I seea screenshot, I'm not buying it either, and I certainly don't believe a CSR gave one to anyone. If anything, IF they do exist, someone figured out how to make one using /select # as an architect. We know there was a farmer class in Beta. Did these Bio-harvesters exist then? I'm guessing yes, and I'm sure the schematics were all removed from the code along with all our bugged creatures <cough>. I suspect that the truth is more that you believed someone's lie when you caught them exploiting somehow.



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Tarnak_Archvold
Sat Sep 27, 2003 5:47 pm
#70

This all sounds reasonably fishy, as you folks can surely agree. You can't blame Tal-N for not thinking it exists just because someone else says it does. Up until this post, no one has ever mentioned anything like a Bio Generator. Given that...

Personally, I do not blame anyone for choosing not to believe the claims of the existence of a bio harvester. I do however hold it angst anyone to declaim thoughts that choose to believe it liars. There is even less foundation for calling thoughts that claim they have seen a bio harvester liars, then there is for the existence of bio harvesters.


1. a Bio Generator has never even been heard of till now.

Everything have to be seen for the first time once. Not long ago I for the first time heard that someone had found "class 4 pesto fuel" (the stuff needed for "advanced Chemical release duration mechanisms". That does not mean that that claim was a lie.


2. Scouts (especially plus the new 60% group rule) provide huge amounts of hides/meats/bone, making there no logical reason for those to be generated in a harvester. Such a creation would ruin Scouts in economy.

I do not thigh that anyone would disagree with that. If such a thing as a bio harvester do exist then it is most likely one of several options that SOE is considering and still have not balanced out. The fact that they would make scouts obsolete does not mean that some disgruntled employee could not be handing them out against the wishes of SOE.


3. Milk from a harvester...? Does this thing suck on mammal teats or what? Granted I'm making large cats out of frog DNA, but magically appearing milk sounds even nuttier.

Well we use harvesters to gather wood. Dos the harvester go out and chop trees? Or pick flowers? To me it does not sound totally unlikely that SOE would come up with such a possible solution, if old farmer code existed. There is a reason that they would be deleted when found if they do exist, and that reason could be that they are considered un starwarsy, and unbalancing.


4. Still no evidence of a Bio Generator existing has been shown.

None existence of proof is not, proof of none existence.


... you can see why someone would doubt that it would exist. The Devs adding some type of harvester to collect eggs, seafood, and milk in the future is a probability. But a device being added which completely negates Scouts in the economy is extremely unlikely.

Anyone have the right to make up his or her own mind. However, what we all have to remember is that that right is not exclusive, and we have to let others make up their mind even if we disagree with their conclusion. Calling each other names, does know one any good.




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grelgen
Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:41 am
#71

*takes Tal-Ns side*


there is this guy who i work with who will swear up and down that there is this overbeing that has his hand in everybodies lives. I ask him for proof that this overbeing exists and he cant offer any other than i have to take his word on it. I call him a liar and im done with it




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ekloploah
Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:46 am
#72

This might be a dumb question but who makes bio generators?


If you know any and are on wanderhome tell me. I need one......



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yjkoo
Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:49 am
#73






ekloploah wrote:

This might be a dumb question but who makes bio generators?


If you know any and are on wanderhome tell me. I need one......



no one makes these hun. supposedly there used to be during beta but was taken out when they got rid of farmer and miner (which i thought were nice classes).
ekloploah
Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:51 am
#74

thank you for responding.............................and that bites. I'd love to be a farmer and wear cute hats.


Ek




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Yin-Tarquinas
Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:12 am
#75

As BEs, our class has been kicked and neglected enough to be skeptical of anything. The method in which this device was distrubted, by hook or crook, mistake or deliberate, was of questionable ethics. Busted profession or not, what everyone wants more than anything is level playing field, and this instance the ground has been sloped at 90 degrees. People have the right to be angry, but there's no need for the insults or accusations agianst guys like Can who brought this situation to light. Talk about shooting the messenger.


Thing is, thePhototronicharvestor did not only produce milk and eggs, it was capable of pulling up meat, hides, bones etc.To me, a machinebeing able to create this kind of stuff is no moreunrealistic than being able to bust run with 100 tons of steelin my backpack or pulling a graul mauler out of my back pocket. The fact that this device was created, tested and used during BETA proves that it exists. There are threads in other forums posted by testers who have owned and operated these machines. The only debate is if it made its way into the current game. Which,even without thetestimonies and abundance milk in the economy, is not hard to believe. Is it?


Krantor
Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:54 am
#76

Hmm, i just curious, i read alot in this post of how a Bio Harvestor would ruin Scouts and Rangers. Is Harvesting a class defining skill for these groups? Anyone with a novice scout skill can harvest, just as anyone with novice artisan can sample, to harvest more u get hunting IV, to sample more u get Survey IV. Maybe someone can clue me in on how getting a resource is unbalancing to a Melee based class?



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Darksfallen
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:11 am
#77

Hey, good to hear, I hope they show themselves soon, now all we need is one we can throw into the water and grow/catch us fish. A Fauna harvester/surveying tool, hehe.


Miriam



>>>Just so ya know there are CSR running round giving out new Toys to people that are able to harvest Milk/Meats/Hides Etc >>>




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Punchyartsy
Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:51 pm
#78

Talk to a CSR on chat. Ask them about a bio-harvester. They aren't suppose to exist in game and however they got in there I don't know but they are destroyed on sight by the CSRs.


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