Bio Engineer Archive

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Seraphym14 wrote:
1. Volunteer CSR for 3 years. I know the limitations the correspondents are under. I know anything that doesn't praise the dev's ideas or agree with them completely is ignored or said to be "negative" and then ignored.

2. Yes, I am suggesting that we hold our ground for the real fix and not accept candy that will simply allow them to shove us in the corner and not address the real issues.

3. We lose a voice when we accept half measures. It allows them to say "but we just gave you x, y and z".

4. If I didn't love the class, I wouldn't care enough to say anything.

5. Having a different opinion here is obviously invitation to be ridiculed so why would anyone voice one?

6. One star me and bash me all you want for having the courage to speak up.

This forum has lost many strong voices in the past, sadly. What remains is people who think far too much of themselves hanging around trying to put everyone else down.

/bye

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First, changing from the current sampling system to a stackable blood sampling system is a real fix that solves real issues. It is good both for us and for them as it eases stress on the database.

Second, stackable blood is a lot less of a half measure than stackable DNA.

Third, quit trying to make yourself out to be some kind of martyr. You have an idea that isn't bad, but it isn't the best and people just don't agree with you. I think if you looked at all the proposals with an open mind you would see that the stackable blood idea offers the most advantages and wouldn't take that much coding to put into the game.

I wonder if this is really true though. At fanfest, K was asked about dna storage, point blank, to his face, and he responded in the affirmative (meaning let's figure out a way to allow more storage). I of course have no clue what he's said to Nancy or Talth or on the corr forums, but at fanfest he certainly did not throw a bucket of cold water on this.

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Suenr wrote:
The devs have basically said NO to more storage space for DNA. It takes up a lot of database space and they basically would rather have us storing less of it.

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From our top 5 issues in December:

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Inventory restrictions are in place do to data storage limitations, if I increase the amount of DNA you can store in any way it would have to be done such that the total amount of storage for the increased amount of DNA is equal to or lower than the current numbers. DNA also happens to be a very data intensive item which make this a very tricky thing to do. I wouldn't say it's never going to happen but it is extremely low priority considering the difficulty and all of the other important issues we need to address.

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This is when the first blood sampling ideas popped up - a way to increase the amount of DNA we can store without increasing the amount of data we have in our inventories.
Its theoretically simple and solves multiple problems.

The devs have basically said NO to more storage space for DNA. It takes up a lot of database space and they basically would rather have us storing less of it. That is one reason I think the blood idea actually has a chance of making it. It isn't just good for us, it is good for them, and they are much more likely to do something if they get something out of it too. So I think you will see something like that make it into the game before they add a way to store more DNA than you can now.

On the high health sampling, I don't see why they couldn't add the stackable blood sampling idea while leaving DNA sampling in place. They would just have to add a new command for the blood sampling and leave the current DNA sampling command alone.

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Seraphym14 wrote:
. What remains is people who think far too much of themselves hanging around trying to put everyone else down.

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It would be best to bring a mirror with you wherever you go with such an attitude.

OK lets have a vote:

Would we

A: like to try get as many small easy improvements to our profession as possible sqeezed into the devs already packed schedule

Or

B: sit around and wait until after JTL, Combat balance, GCW revamp and anything else that take priority over little old us, so that the devs cant use the excuse of we've already had issue addressed when it comes time to fix BE pet crafting.
Should I go on vacation for the next 6 months? Would you prefer a more 'hands off' approach to corresponding? Cos I can do that, I can bugger off to another forum and leave you to it and wait for a dev to approach me with regard to pet crafting.
If the devs ask for quick fixes that can be put into minipublishes, should I tell them, no no, we're ok, we dont need anything until you fix our pets?

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NancyJ wrote:
OK lets have a vote:

Would we

A: like to try get as many small easy improvements to our profession as possible sqeezed into the devs already packed schedule

Or

B: sit around and wait until after JTL, Combat balance, GCW revamp and anything else that take priority over little old us, so that the devs cant use the excuse of we've already had issue addressed when it comes time to fix BE pet crafting.
Should I go on vacation for the next 6 months? Would you prefer a more 'hands off' approach to corresponding? Cos I can do that, I can bugger off to another forum and leave you to it and wait for a dev to approach me with regard to pet crafting.
If the devs ask for quick fixes that can be put into minipublishes, should I tell them, no no, we're ok, we dont need anything until you fix our pets?

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Heyas all,

I appreciate all input, strong and weak, as long as we avoid personal attacks, treat one another courteously, and speak/write politely. The blood stacking solution would probably work best at this point and then the quality and characteristics of the DNA samples taken from it can be randomized.

Additionally, it only makes sense that these sample would need some kind of cryo-storage. Thus, DEs can make storage modules for droids, MAs can make storage units or add-ons for structures, or say a one lot structure just for blood and DNA, and tailors could make smaller cryo-packs that could be carried.

All of these could be implemented, reducing the amount of intensive data/coding, increasing amounts BE can store, and still maintain the individuality and quality of DNA samples used to make pets. I love the fact that there is some mystery and randomness to creations and being able to efectively store more will make is more convenient when trying to home in on a desired creature/characteristics. Of course the invalid creatures bug needs to be fixed so that the level is really set on creation.

As an aside, I've never used my vendors as storage which IMHO, I've always considered an abuse. And that is why, and rightfully so, that vendors are going through a change. As always the abuses of the few ruin the day-to-day activities of the many. I see it mostly hurting the UBER resource harvestors that have stored infinite amounts on vendors they shouldn't have really had in the first place unless they've kept the appropriate skills. But we will all adapt, still have fun, and many will actually train in merchant and keep it, hehe.

Regards,

Rilvas
HUWIPA Alliance
Chilastra