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lol, can anyone give me any help? please

The thing about defender is this...

Let's suppose that everything is working as intended.

With the temp for your defense, you are missing out on some ranged defense and some jedi innate armor. By moving points out of healer and into powers, you are not increasing your defense but giving yourself the ability to cloak. Which is not defense. So with you question being "will I see a decrease in damage taken", I would think NO. Im not sure if your going to get force armor with your temp (Im at work). So Ill explain how this works. Force Aura increase the chance that the opponent will miss. Force armor decreases damage so you take less in a fight. Other than that, there are no other skills that deal with the decrease in damage. Nothing in powers. In ls, there is block which helps alot. But you are mls anyway. There is force defense in enhancer. But nothing in healer. I hope this answers your question.

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namenurfd wrote:
lol, can anyone give me any help? please

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if you drop some defense then I think you will see a change

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namenurfd wrote:
I am currently: "MLS 3x4x def 31x2 enhancer 4x2x healer"
was going for MLS 4x4x def 3xx2 enhancer 4x4x healer

But I wanna know.. If I go MLS 1x4x def 3xx2 enhancer 4xxx healer x4xx powers

will I notice a change on Incoming damage?

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Ok I'll try to give you some help, whatever I can. If im correct you will loose some dmg mitagtion of you give up the defender 4xxx line. On the other hand when it gets tough you can force run away and use cloak which you wouldnt be able to otherwise.

Another thing I can see is that you will loose sap, stun is really good in duels/bh fights if the opponent has high sac weapons. As a replacement you can always use Stunning Strike in the Lightsaber tree

Thanks MrDoppa, but i think u missread a little bit, i will be dropping from 3x4x defender to 1x4x

im wondering will the 2 boxes in defender make a big change to incoming damage


Also i dont want 4xx4 enhancer, i would rather just have 1xxx def, i dont like FR2 and force meditate isnt worth it, only + is the extra force.. and regen..

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namenurfd wrote:
I am currently: "MLS 3x4x def 31x2 enhancer 4x2x healer"
was going for MLS 4x4x def 3xx2 enhancer 4x4x healer

But I wanna know.. If I go MLS 1x4x def 3xx2 enhancer 4xxx healer x4xx powers

will I notice a change on Incoming damage?

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Yes, you will notice the drop in damage mitigation since you are losing about 1/4th of your innate armor along with about 150 of melee defense.
If you get cloak, you will have to use cloak not only when you want, but also when you are becoming a target and start taking damage. Its not a PvE template, and you will have to do a lot of damage right after uncloaking and then cloak again as fast as possible, same fighting style as a MPow / MLS has. Improved Force Speed will help you do this.

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DarthTyranuss wrote:

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namenurfd wrote:
I am currently: "MLS 3x4x def 31x2 enhancer 4x2x healer"
was going for MLS 4x4x def 3xx2 enhancer 4x4x healer

But I wanna know.. If I go MLS 1x4x def 3xx2 enhancer 4xxx healer x4xx powers

will I notice a change on Incoming damage?

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Ok I'll try to give you some help, whatever I can. If im correct you will loose some dmg mitagtion of you give up the defender 4xxx line. On the other hand when it gets tough you can force run away and use cloak which you wouldnt be able to otherwise.

Another thing I can see is that you will loose sap, stun is really good in duels/bh fights if the opponent has high sac weapons. As a replacement you can always use Stunning Strike in the Lightsaber tree

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With Powers x4xx you can also use Mind Blast to get a stun and a dizzy (both wont stick at all times, however)

i have the temp and i love it

one thing you need to learn pretty damn fast is to save your force pool else you are screawd

Ok, This is the template im probably going to settle on. I've considerd MLS/MDEF healer 3000 enhancer 20/02 but I dont think i will be happy with only 1k heals.
As far as I can tell, the weakness with this template is going to be how to catch up with a kiting BH. All you have is adv saber throw to KD them. This means your going to be taking a lot of damage, but once you catch up, AB>shock>sap>state them up>PH>KD>leghit>headhit>PH will be one NASTY damage set im confident will work and get you the incap if you can pull it all off fast smoothly.
Obvious you have no channel, so make sure be spareing with your force.


I'd liek to ask, what is people take on the 1k heals? Does anybody have some sound experince in MLS/MDEF healer 3000 enhancer 2000, MLS/MDEF healer 3000 enhancer 0002 and MLS/MDEF healer 4040?

All expereinces/stories and advice is very much appreciated.

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Ventuviper wrote:
Ok, This is the template im probably going to settle on. I've considerd MLS/MDEF healer 3000 enhancer 20/02 but I dont think i will be happy with only 1k heals.
As far as I can tell, the weakness with this template is going to be how to catch up with a kiting BH. All you have is adv saber throw to KD them. This means your going to be taking a lot of damage, but once you catch up, AB>shock>sap>state them up>PH>KD>leghit>headhit>PH will be one NASTY damage set im confident will work and get you the incap if you can pull it all off fast smoothly.
Obvious you have no channel, so make sure be spareing with your force.


I'd liek to ask, what is people take on the 1k heals? Does anybody have some sound experince in MLS/MDEF healer 3000 enhancer 2000, MLS/MDEF healer 3000 enhancer 0002 and MLS/MDEF healer 4040?

All expereinces/stories and advice is very much appreciated.

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why even chase the BH? that is what they want you to do .

it is muc better to make the BH chase you behinc buildings or other terrain like stone or tree or what ever

I see what your saying, but the fact is, if you let the ranged BH keep at range, you will die. You need to be doing them damage, making them heal and wearing down their mind.