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Thread: Template Help

VickeVire
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:36 am
#391
true! with one master tree you can get 5 lines





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eXpiatio
Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:40 am
#392

indeed.. you can get only 34x2 in enhacer with that build...


well like someone already said just get Mdef like everyone else did






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darkbounty1
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:25 pm
#393
woops, hehe, i forgot about the 6 branches you need for jedi



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Kotahn
Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:37 am
#394
What do you guys think of these templates, and which would you go with? :

MDef
2xx2 Ehn
4xxx Healer
x2x4 LS
x4xx Pwrs

MDef
2xx2 Ehn
2xxx Healer
x4x4 LS
x4xx Pwrs

MLS
x4x4 Def
2xx1 Ehn
4xxx Healer
x4xx Pwrs

Thoughts? Recommendations? Flames?



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LairdJimmy
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:00 am
#395




Kotahn wrote:

What do you guys think of these templates, and which would you go with? :

MDef
2xx2 Ehn
4xxx Healer
x2x4 LS
x4xx Pwrs

MDef
2xx2 Ehn
2xxx Healer
x4x4 LS
x4xx Pwrs

MLS
x4x4 Def
2xx1 Ehn
4xxx Healer
x4xx Pwrs

Thoughts? Recommendations? Flames?




Some of the issues to consider:


Template 1: More mainstream saber skills are required. Minimally switch to x4x2 sabers.


Template 2:Probably not enough healing.


Template 3: You have no channel, no method to regenerate force beyond the miserably slow regeneration rates. It's a bit light on some of the other abilities as well, such as force speed 2.


You want to have it all, that's just not possible. Determine how you would like to fight. If you are more comfortable remaining on the defensive in a fight, waiting for a moment, then invest more heavily in defensive abilites. If you prefer to be on the offensive then invest more heavily there. Do you want to be able to control your opponents movements? Which is most important? You need to determine how you want to play. Don't botherchasing theFOTM templates, in the end you will want to play the game in your own style and frequently a FOTM will not allow you to do so, resulting in frustration(and frequently calls todestroy othertemplates and skillsbecause the owners of those othertemplates learned how to be effective).


In general, everybody wants a cookie cutter grind followed by a cookie cutter template. Most people reallydo not want to be challenged beyond the mindless grind, they want the easy solutions readily available. I can't tell you how you play best, nobody here can. You need to find that out for yourself. When you pvp on your main, how do you fight? Are you aggressive and not afraid to die? Are you more comfortable in the role of a tank able to absorb damage without the ability to escape or control opponents?


It's your character, what determines if it is "your jedi" is if you give yourself a template that you can effectively play. As a 4444 guardian who hasheld every possible jedi skill in the pre-9, post-9(by constantly grinding and shifting skills), and post-cu systems I am still modifying my style of play and modifying my template to suit. The grind doen't end at a full template.






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JackDana
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:33 am
#396
MLS/Defender 4040/Enh 3402/Healer 4000.



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darkbounty1
Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:58 pm
#397




Karmii wrote:

No go with


MLS


4440Def (decent enough inate armor with out force costs)


3002 Enhancer


4000 Healer



You get basicly the same inate armor with out the force costs every hit. the improved speed is just good enough for MLs to make you spam attacks mixed with master doc adrenalin buffs... you don't ahv eneough tiem to hit any other commands then power strike with auto attack on.



GL






TY.I think i will go with this template.





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dodz
Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:10 pm
#398




baube wrote:

i dropped the unneeded channel stuff, im MLS/ MDef/ Healer 4040


you just dont run out of force like you used to, so who needs channel? might pick it up to help with grinding, but i dont need it with finished template anymore. i believe MLS is strongest offensive line in jedi, defender is strongest defensive line, with all the nerfs improved force infusion is a must, and those 1500 heals are great. force shock makes it easy to stack states on any opponent, and sap will have any BH out of action and low on mind before you even get within saber range....7200 force pool and +64 force regen...i dig it



baube






yeah i want to go back to that one i had before i did respec to mls, Mdef, 2000 heal, 0003 enhancer, I do good in group pvp with it but when i was mls, Mdef, 4040 healer i did well solo as well



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silentjunior
Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:12 pm
#399
lol, my template is SOOO much better

MLS/ME/Heal 4xx4

yeah...i didnt go with the FOTM template




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Smugglah
Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:55 pm
#400




Karmii wrote:

No go with


MLS


4440Def (decent enough inate armor with out force costs)


3002 Enhancer


4000 Healer



You get basicly the same inate armor with out the force costs every hit. the improved speed is just good enough for MLs to make you spam attacks mixed with master doc adrenalin buffs... you don't ahv eneough tiem to hit any other commands then power strike with auto attack on.



GL





this is an excellent, well rounded template...a good choice for someone that likes to be a damage dealer and still be able to tank effectively





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darkbounty1
Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:34 pm
#401

ok, thank you so:


MLS


444x def


3xx2 enhancer


4xxx heal




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dubber2558
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:00 pm
#402




darkbounty1 wrote:

I was wondering if this template was good.


MLS

xx44 defender

44x4 enhancer

4xxx healer


Make any suggestions, and where should i start? im still FS. Im also new to the forums, so i dont know what everything means.




I have almost the exact same temp but you can't get all those skills... I'm MLS, 4402 ENH, 4000 heal and 3040 DEF( I got the extra innate armor instead of F. VALOR). I only have 1 SP left.

I'm not a tank by any means but I can, with my good saber (Mod. DPS of 705.23),and MLS dish outmore damage than I take. I respec'd out of MLS/MDEF 00002 Enh, 3000 heal and Like my new temp alot more! My new temp is alot more versatile and is just a good, imo, all-around temp. GL and let us now what you think if you go with it.






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Kotahn
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:25 am
#403
What do you all think about MLS/xx4x Def/4xx4Ehn/4xxxHeal/x4xx Pwrs?
Just thinking what would work best. I'd like to have (1)Cloak, (2)Good Healing, and (3) Decent (PVP Oriented) Defense. Not sure how to go really...

-Kotahn/Azieroth



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