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Thread: Publish 17 Cloning Changes: the consolidated short-course.

supersparc
Fri May 27, 2005 1:00 pm
#27

Well, that blows me out of the water...how did you get over 1149 hardiness? Dang.





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Spazzers
Fri May 27, 2005 1:07 pm
#28


Sparc, it may be an anomaly from using pre-curb DNA. Try mixing pre with post and see if that works better.



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lammergeier
Fri May 27, 2005 1:23 pm
#29



supersparc wrote:
Well, that blows me out of the water...how did you get over 1149 hardiness? Dang.




check the spreadsheet. elite mobs can generate capped DNA stats (1000), and assembly adds a bonus. experiment on the stat, however, and you're back to 1000.



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lammergeier
Sat May 28, 2005 12:21 am
#30

edit: mistake.

Message Edited by lammergeier on 05-27-2005 03:32 PM



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wompdog
Sat May 28, 2005 12:31 am
#31

sorry lam, i may be a little slow but i just want to make sure i'm reading that right. I read 0.5% as one half of one percent improvement. Please tell me i'm wrong and that is actually a 50 percent improvement! and thanks for the work your putting in.
lammergeier
Sat May 28, 2005 12:34 am
#32



wompdog wrote:
sorry lam, i may be a little slow but i just want to make sure i'm reading that right. I read 0.5% as one half of one percent improvement. Please tell me i'm wrong and that is actually a 50 percent improvement! and thanks for the work your putting in.





you're reading it right. one half of one percent.

I was banging out some new clones today, though, and I've seen some higher numbers.

CL55, 8914 health, 45 regen, armor 2124, to hit 95, defense 174, state resist 40.5%, crit hit 1.52%, crit save 1.5%, aggro bonus 2.77%, damage 68-302.



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-Sinaya-
Sat May 28, 2005 5:01 am
#33


Combining your spreadsheet and the stats of the creatures I made, looks like armor = 6 x fortitude


On the 14 creature's stats I have, only one doesn't exactly match. It means that for a 10 000 armor (equivalent to 60% resist) we need to hit 1666 fortitude


Also appears that health would be approximatively 8 x hardiness.

lammergeier
Sat May 28, 2005 6:07 am
#34



-Sinaya- wrote:

Combining your spreadsheet and the stats of the creatures I made, looks like armor = 6 x fortitude

On the 14 creature's stats I have, only one doesn't exactly match. It means that for a 10 000 armor (equivalent to 60% resist) we need to hit 1666 fortitude

Also appears that health would be approximatively 8 x hardiness.






the issue with armor is one I've mentioned in the long ramblings of the 'consolidated short course', 'cept you went and put a number to it.

the weekend is my work week, so I'll be dodging some responsibility and getting ingame when I can, then go full-bore midweek when I enjoy MY weekend, getting more data.



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supersparc
Sat May 28, 2005 6:47 am
#35


lammergeier wrote:


supersparc wrote:
Well, that blows me out of the water...how did you get over 1149 hardiness? Dang.




check the spreadsheet. elite mobs can generate capped DNA stats (1000), and assembly adds a bonus. experiment on the stat, however, and you're back to 1000.




I know. I used pre-CU deeds to sample from. They generate 1000 Hardiness DNA when the pre-CU health is 9000 or so. After combining 5 such samples I can get the hardniess to 1149. Thats 1000 from the samples and 14.99% assembly bonus. I have done this with 3 seperate pets and each pet has come out with 7568 health....this didnt make sense.

So, I went and tried a direct Blurrg raptor clone. 800 hardiness converted to 6767 health......something doesnt seem right. Maybe the pre-CU Deeds produce bugged DNA.....





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MagicFairy
Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:45 am
#36

Anyone that has done some more testing on the new system and found some kind of formula(s)?


The notes I've taken down so far do not help much yet, I ve tried to find a way to influence the CL and concentrated on psychological and agressive profile, but the results are not satisfying.





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Dorelli
Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:42 pm
#37

You might want to try reading this post.



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lammergeier
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:01 am
#38

clicky time. why? because I've gotten PM's indicating that this forum has too many stickies.

two helpful threads:

Predicting Pet Level in the new system - New Preliminary Weightings (Dorelli)

predicting pet stats from DNA (OfficerDibble)

and a warning about nonCH mounts:

Bad News: new cloning and mounts.

and great big cats:

holy leaping cats, BioE-man!



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Br-10n
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:48 pm
#39



darkmeh wrote:

What is this madness! No .pdf's? How dare you assume that everyone out there has access to the luxury of excel! Am I not good enough to see this file? Is that what it is?

This is a blatant descrimation to all .pdf'ers and I think we, as the BE community, should stand up to this outrage and force lammergeier out of office unless he agrees to give us a .pdf file version of his spreadsheet. No Bio-engineer should ever have to put up with such nonsense. Nonense, I say!

Who's with me!






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