Bio Engineer Archive

Sciguy nailed all my major concerns. The dependancy on BE for good foods is my biggest concern. I know we're meant to have some things like this, and BE doesn't have much else but there must be a better way round it than this.

1. Too many food are not worth making... IE: Ormachek, the bonus is nill compared to the filling. No one would ever buy it. We got alot of new foods with the revamp, but so many are not needed/wanted


2. Probably more of a BE issue, but why are the Nutritional additives the only ones you ever see made? Because the other ones are nearly impossible to make. A filling additive takes wild and domestic meat, thereby upping the cost to the point its not worth making. I would personally love to see more of a variety of food stats, not just making the biggest buff possible, but rather finding the right mix of filling/duration/buff. In short, reduce the resource requirements of the other additives bringing them more in line with nutritional additives.

*wave Tiggs

best way i have to say this in my own words:

a combat medic should IMO be the supreme battlefield healer..
CM's should be sought out for everything from everyday hunts.. to the toughest dungeons

as it stands this moment.. our healing ability isn't needed/wanted except in very rare circumstances.. and even in those circumstances (vette/dwb class scenarios) we don't have the proper tools to do our jobs

last time i went on the vette.. i threw 2 area stims.. and 4 mindheals.. although those 6 skillpoints i spent in novice doc i was using constantly to remove states from everyone

CM's in their current incarnation lend negligible benefit to most PvE encounters.. our poisons/disease do negligible damage to 'average' mobs..

requiring such specific resources to make our advanced components is another painful experience.. because if you can't manage to find a large stockpile of it you can't make ANYTHING really worth making

money is another prime concern.. as a CM our market is limited to other CM's.. specifically dabblers.. doc's now have to use dispersal mechanisms for their poison/disease cures.. which can easily be replaced with all that 5/70 rancor bile that clogs the bazaar because it's effectivly useless for most CM applications having no range or area on it whatsoever
not having the full range of medicine use/experimentation i can't even craft stim-B's to sell to the masses.. because noone will buy them when they can buy 400heal stim-b's that are doc made

mindheal pains me.. i've switched templates jut to pick up meditate4 just so i can use it without suffering too much.. of course since i made that change i've rarely used it *sigh.. typical bad luck on my part



those are the real biggies for me.. being outhealed by someone who should IMO be sitting in a white tent behind the battlelines.. and being a support class that serves no real purpose as we rarely have anyone to support


i know many CM's have a very different take on the situation.. and you're sure to hear from them soon.. so i'll cut this off now and leave them some room on the front page 8)

#1. Issue I see is - counterattack not working as intended.

But I guess for most people the issue is too high HAM costs on specials.

Tiggs,

I've been playing SWG since Beta 3 but have only been a Chef for about 2 months. I'll defer to the more "senior" Chefs on this board, but here's my 2 credits....

As a new Chef just getting started, I found it essential to go to websites to learn about Chef buffs. The in-game schematics don't provide any information about them. None of the other SWG crafting professions I've played work this way. Could the schematic descriptions be updated to include some information about what the item does?

Of the various crafting professions I've played, Chef is the 2nd highest in terms of dependence upon another crafting profession (the 1st being Droid Engineer). The Chef's dependence upon another profession requires a much greater investment, though -- I have to spend millions of credits on Bio Engineer supplies to do just 1 factory run of Brandy. I spent much less on Master Artisan components when I was doing Advanced R3 droid factory runs.

If I could, I'd be a Master Chef and Master BE just like I had Master Artisan when I was a DE. But that's impossible with my template, especially considering the recent vendor changes. So there's a very happy BE on my server now.

I've found that customers (at least on my server anyway) are accustomed to BE-enhanced food/drink and so will only buy those. So even though food and drink can be made without BE components, those items just don't sell. I found this out the hard way by stocking my vendor with non-BE food and drink.... that stuff is still there collecting dust, and I priced it much lower than the BE stuff I made later.

I love that Chefs can place cantinas. Within a few days of mastering Chef I pestered my Mayor and now I have my very own cantina

Message Edited by GoldMemberBria on 09-27-2004 03:51 PM

I agree with what has been said up above. The revamp turned chef into one of the most well-rounded and complete professions in the game. I’m hard pressed to find anything to complain about, especially as I have played a smuggler for more than a year—they’ve got problems—but you know that! If I had to pick ONE issue with the chef profession it would be this restatement of one of Sciguys points:

99%+ of all foods are crafted using the nutrition additive. Period. This creates a de-facto dependency upon BEs as it’s just not feasible to make or sell any food that is not BE enhanced, and enhanced for nutrition. Again, that’s not such a bad thing, it’s just rather limiting.

I started writing this, then realized that I was just regurgitating the top 5 lists, and not what *I* felt was important. So, here's *my* list:

1. Lack of Damage-type choice. Energy, Heat, Acid. All commonly resisted. Generally, not all PvE targets will have high resists to all 3 types of damage, but any smart PvPer will.
2. Lack of Carbine choice. I forget the statistics, but I believe there are considerably more pistols and rifles than there are carbines. This does link back to #1 a bit, and there's also the fact that our only AP2 weapon can usually outperform your others, meaning that while typically a target will have lower heat or acid resists than energy resists, the fact that the Laser is AP2 and has better damage, negates the higher resists. Again, this goes hand-in-hand with #1.
3. Defenses. But, this seems to apply to all ranged professions, save possibly pistoleer which has so many state modifier defenses.
4. It seems to me the point of the Carbineer is to land state effects. Yet the best state effect[intimidate] is given to Novice Brawlers. Hmm...

Sure, speed and ham costs are important, but, those will possibly be addressed in the combat balance, right? please?

I'm relatively new to chef, but here are my problems:

Yes, the filling issue has been addressed as "working as planned", but I'm not fond of the intention. Maybe instead of taking filling completely away, just remove half of the stomach's contents. It will help get people back in the fight and at the same time, still limiting the ease of use of food.

As for the barrel, I say just get rid of it. It would create way too big of a gap between 10 point (typically lower end, just starting out chefs) and the 12 point chefs that dominate the market. So Id just not like that gap.

Then the usual complaint with BE's (even though my chef is one hehe)