Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Tensile Resistance... the stats
Tokklyym wrote:
Not quite true. Read some of the replys to that thread; it only counts for slots which require a specific resource, if you use, for example, Iron in a Metal slot, you will still get crappy results because it works on the hard cap for all Metals. If you put that same rubbish Iron into a slot which requires Iron though, you will get great results because the established hard cap for Iron is much lower than for Metal generally.
I apologize. I apparently need to stop talking about things I don't understand.
Don't apologize, it helps everyone when you ask questions or bring something to our attention. I didn't know about the change to crafting and while it doesn't affect BE tissues and additives, it does affect the meds (I think). And knowing about the changes, it will allow people to tell others in the game.
Rand72 wrote:
i wonder what would be the result of using some kind of uber tubers for flora instead of wood,since the tubers will have all 3 of the requirements versus the wood only having 1 of the requirements?my best so far are +15's but only at 80% expiremented
I used some uber organics and a 994 oq wood. No difference. The best I've been able to get is a +15. Of course the only tailor to get the new melee clothes out has been my friend 
So far he's making a killing.
The new crafting system doesn't affect the practice of using wood in the organic slots.
Hey Arthur Thank you
We have some great Cors, and you are definatly one of the better.
Without you guys cross posting, half of what is here wouldn't be known.
Next week I should get my free crate of resources which I will use on milk. I will see how good I can make the tissues with that. Right now I can only make +15/+15 but my milk is pretty bad. 
I've been so busy trying to aquire the things I need (I managed to colled over 18k of uber milk yesterday!), and keep my factories running, I have had little time to actually make or "field test" clothing yet, but I intend to do a lot of that in the coming weeks. I really wish I had been informed about this stuff earlier and this stuff had made it onto TC prior to release, but oh well.
In any case, I'll keep ya'll informed on what I find, if you guys promise to do the same
Kyei wrote:
This probably should go in tailor forum as well, does anyone know the limit on clothes? (i.e. can you put 2 of these tissues in some field ware and will it come out as +32/+32)
Before with the limit of +25 in clothes you didnt need to make top end tissues, since you could stack them upto the limit in clothes..but since the CU i have a nasty feeling (or good feeling) that there is no limit, so higher quality tissues are going to be more valuable.
-Kyei
Unfortunatly, it doesn't apply to BE items...the old ones anyway..not sure about the meds. All stats on the organic resources are xxxx/1000. But it does chance the way the final results come out. I haven't messed with it much, but I was able to make some decent +14's using high oq with poor secondaries. I got +13's with some pretty crappy milk. Makes my Tailor friend happy.
I've sold more tissues already this week than I did in the previous 6 months.
All stats on organics are not xxxx/1000. These are the resource gates for resources PRE-CU. I have no idea if they've changed them with the CU:
Flowers: PE 1 - 700
Domesticated Corn: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Oats: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Rice: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Wheat: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Wild Corn: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Wild Oats: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Wild Rice: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Wild Wheat: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Avian Meat: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Carnivore Meat: FL 300 - 1000, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Meat: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Herbivore Meat: FL 1 - 700, PE 1 - 700
Insect Meat: PE 300 - 1000
Wild Meat: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Milk: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Wild Milk: PE 1 - 700
Conifer Wood: DR 1 - 600, MA 600 - 1000, SR 100 - 400, UT 1 - 300
Evergreen Wood: DR 1 - 500, MA 800 - 1000, SR 1 - 400, UT 1 - 300
Decidious Wood: DR 1 - 800, MA 400 - 800, SR 300 - 700, UT 1 - 800
Animal Bone: DR 300 - 1000, MA 1 - 500, SR 400 - 1000
Avian Bone: DR 1 - 700, MA 1 - 600, SR 100 - 500, UT 1 - 500
Horns: DR 200 - 1000, MA 1 - 500, SR 300 - 700, UT 1 - 500
As you can see, most of the gates are on PE or FL. OQ as far as I understand can go up to 1000 on all organics.
Frogmorton
ZahrIna wrote:
I think the best on BE tissues before was +18, I heard rumor of +19 but never actually saw any of these. The best my old BE and I could do with the best materials was +18 on all tissues except the +4 max on the tensile of old.
Pre-CURB I was able to push Tensile Resistance up to +4/+19 using the best ingredients I had. But I didn't do this commercially , not enough of the really good stuff to make a complete line of +4/+19s, so I stuck with selling +4/+18. Of course that's all going in the bin now as +4 melee is soooooooo much lower than the +16 I can make. (sob .... now just have to collect the new ingredients).
And a very big thanks to ArthurDent for posting the results of his tests. Saved me all the pain of replacing my old stock with converted tissues ...... only to find that I had to replace them with the new-fangled BE stuff.
Gyopi wrote:Next week I should get my free crate of resources which I will use on milk. I will see how good I can make the tissues with that. Right now I can only make +15/+15 but my milk is pretty bad.
heh, assuming the cap is still at +25, you can probably sell most of your clothing at +13. I'll have to get some of that myself
Frogmorton76 wrote:
Unfortunatly, it doesn't apply to BE items...the old ones anyway..not sure about the meds. All stats on the organic resources are xxxx/1000. But it does chance the way the final results come out. I haven't messed with it much, but I was able to make some decent +14's using high oq with poor secondaries. I got +13's with some pretty crappy milk. Makes my Tailor friend happy.
I've sold more tissues already this week than I did in the previous 6 months.
All stats on organics are not xxxx/1000. These are the resource gates for resources PRE-CU. I have no idea if they've changed them with the CU:
Flowers: PE 1 - 700
Domesticated Corn: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Oats: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Rice: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Wheat: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Wild Corn: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Wild Oats: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Wild Rice: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Wild Wheat: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Avian Meat: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Carnivore Meat: FL 300 - 1000, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Meat: FL 300 - 1000, PE 1 - 700
Herbivore Meat: FL 1 - 700, PE 1 - 700
Insect Meat: PE 300 - 1000
Wild Meat: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Domesticated Milk: FL 1 - 700, PE 300 - 1000
Wild Milk: PE 1 - 700
Conifer Wood: DR 1 - 600, MA 600 - 1000, SR 100 - 400, UT 1 - 300
Evergreen Wood: DR 1 - 500, MA 800 - 1000, SR 1 - 400, UT 1 - 300
Decidious Wood: DR 1 - 800, MA 400 - 800, SR 300 - 700, UT 1 - 800
Animal Bone: DR 300 - 1000, MA 1 - 500, SR 400 - 1000
Avian Bone: DR 1 - 700, MA 1 - 600, SR 100 - 500, UT 1 - 500
Horns: DR 200 - 1000, MA 1 - 500, SR 300 - 700, UT 1 - 500
As you can see, most of the gates are on PE or FL. OQ as far as I understand can go up to 1000 on all organics.
Frogmorton
Well, you may be right..probably are. But the ones I worry about as a BE are OQ, PE, FL and these seem to go to 1000 on most organics.
When you use something like wood, which has no PE or FL, in an organic slot that will use PE and FL, the assembly process ignores the PE and FL. This is known to most of the older BE's. It's a good trick to bring the OQ up and it helps streach out your uber organics.