Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: 4th Gen non ch pet I just made!!!
Tal-N
Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:22 am
#14
If thats the case then there is still a bug in the system, non-ch pets like that have been banned as many have seen. This is yet another loophole the devs need to plug. Those kinds of stats on that pet are more typical of a CL20+ clone rather than one around CL10, in Thunderhearts own words a non-ch pet or a combat droid is supposed to be hardly combat effective at all. That one is just too powerful.
RonninOtnemem
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:12 pm
#15
Degaulle wrote:
If you are talking about the pet I made Tal it can be used. It has already been tamed and in my care and I called it perfectly no problems.
I hope i didnt misunderstand you : )
Wait until it grows a bit, I am sure it will be considered invalid. Nevertheless, it still looks like an awesome achievement.
SomeUser
Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:12 pm
#16
Degaulle,
Nice pet but I agree with Tal that is should be a invaild one. 7k health with 43% kinetic is WAY to powerful for a non-ch to be using.
I'm not saying you used any exploits or anything so dont get me wrong 
Just dont think a CL10 pet should ever be able to get stats like that IMHO
Vezek
Rocketman2047
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:52 pm
#17
nice work! i was be but dropped it before the last round of changes. although post pub 5 i did spend a few horus helping a friend make some great pets truly peices of work.
im interested in buying an good non ch pet all of my babies now are all borkced and i dont wanna nerf em to generic.
all im looking for is 2-3k ham something with dizzy or intimidate and kinetic resist of like 10% or higher
if you guys need help going through lair after lair of some advanced creatures follow around a guild jedi or soemthign many are out there hours and hours on end and would enjoy the company and the thought of protecting someone ... ahh well it would be as close to content as we get.
well if you would care to work out some sort of situation or just have one to sell please either mail me here or contact my main in game
joob-joob bria server
im interested in buying an good non ch pet all of my babies now are all borkced and i dont wanna nerf em to generic.
all im looking for is 2-3k ham something with dizzy or intimidate and kinetic resist of like 10% or higher
if you guys need help going through lair after lair of some advanced creatures follow around a guild jedi or soemthign many are out there hours and hours on end and would enjoy the company and the thought of protecting someone ... ahh well it would be as close to content as we get.
well if you would care to work out some sort of situation or just have one to sell please either mail me here or contact my main in game
joob-joob bria server
Degaulle
Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:15 am
#18
it is only going to be level 10
So its valid for non ch
Its not my fault the devs didnt fix the system. What else is new. Like they ever fix something the first time.
So its valid for non ch
Its not my fault the devs didnt fix the system. What else is new. Like they ever fix something the first time.
Mosphet
Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:25 am
#19
Nice pet,
I have found that using arachne queen dna will build me a pet with 10k stats + and 30-80 on all resists but heat. To get the nastiest pet possible, start with the nastiest DNA possible. I built a L67 Kimo with 12000 accross the board, ranged poison, and light armour from using Queen arachne DNA. Kinetic resist of 60%
energy , acid and dizzy are all 80%. The rest other than heat are at 30%.
Also be sure to use only, and this is important, only Very high quality DNA samples. On final assembly, use the best meat possible and my preference is high quality Oats.
Good Luck.
If you wnat to see my pets, visit my vendor on Bloodfin Corellia Coronet..492 -5556
All my prices are based on the middle ham value X2. The level 67 kimo sold for 26000 credits.
NORSPHET...Master Bio Eng and C.E.O of Bio-Labs.
ScoutMastr
Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:20 am
#20
hmmm--it's hard to say what's bugged and what isn't now...A high HAM may be achievable with almost no damage, but the resists should have pushed it over CL10--unless you managed vulnerabilities in every other stat...I don't know, maybe they will answer all of these questions with that upcoming Friday Feature--Don't know when that will be.
Feldrin
Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:20 am
#21
well.. ill get to the point... mail me in game (Feldrim, not Feldrin) and tell me a price for that pet
picasso11
Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:59 am
#22
wow some BE's just love the nerf stick! The ham and kinetic are NOT the only factors on cl just becouse this pet has 7k ham and good kinetic dont mean it cannot be non ch . Even if it did some damage whats the to hit, that plays a big part in cl . I have proven that by making i dentical clones and having one hit well and one not hit almost at all the cl difference was 6 levels thats right 6 these pets have i dentical stats exept for the to hit and damage .Under the new cloning system i believe it is possible to make a non ch with 10k ham but it will still be useless if it dont hit.A pet that dosent hit wont even work as a tank mobs agroe on damage you sik this pet on a rancor and then start shooting that rancor is kicking your ass ! Under this new cloning system we can do almost ANYTHING simply becouse we can breed out or in any attribute we want . For three days now i have been experimenting to see just how far i can go and have made some intesting critters and some interesting discoveries . I will be posting a threed on what ive done along with sreenies to prove my work. this pet he made does not surprise me at all .Im not saying all this becouse i m,ake non ch pets and dont want the stick coming out becose i DONT make nons at all antmore the clientell just sucks! Nowadays im more into research my goal is to creata a lvl 60 with max stats across the board and over 600 dmg .
Look we are the only prof where things are not spelled out for us we actually have to use our melons thats what makes it so much fun . The devs dont tell us our boundries becouse they dont know . we create a whole new set of variables with each resampled dna . these samples did not exist in the program b4 you made it and since our new system is based entirely on the dna our only limits are the max / min lvls they put on us .They will never be able to stop us from creating super one offs becouse of this no 2 samples are identical add in the inbreeding and forget it the equation is ridiculos a+b=c,d,f,g,or z.x.y.or,cc,dd,ca,fz,xf,and then in breed again and get cfxzfgdgz get the picture?the only way they could nerf non ch effectively would be to make cl dependant on one attribute .But if they did that say they make cl dependant on ham 2k cl 0-10 3,4k 10-20 and so on .well now whats to stop me from making a cl 10 that hits for 400 damage everytime (got stims!)
just my 2 cents
picasso
mbe/ch/pistoleer
gorath
Tal-N
Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:44 am
#23
Its not my fault the devs didnt fix the system. What else is new. Like they ever fix something the first time.
No one is implying you did this intentionally, but look at how all of the pets which met the gudelines I made a while ago when explaining how to make really good CL10 pets are still valid. The fact is that something with more than 4000 HAM is any pool is simply overpowered for CL10, I was right about the first nerf, I was right about the second. I know I'm right about this pet as well.
Degaulle
Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:06 am
#24
True as this may be. It would be really nice if they sorted this out once and for all. It just seems kinda luke-warm that they still havent fixed these. I dont mind if they do and we start to figure out recipes etc. This Uber non ch pet I made took hours so it isnt really cost effective and Very HARD to repeat. I know because I tried yesterday and eventually got frustrated.
I hope that next time they fix it all that they fix it once and for all. None of this .... We believe we has fixed when clones like this slip through the cracks.
I hope that next time they fix it all that they fix it once and for all. None of this .... We believe we has fixed when clones like this slip through the cracks.
PUGeek
Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:18 am
#25
I'm looking into the possibility of adding BE to my skill set (MCH, NRifleman) and would like to be able to make some really nice pets for myself. The problem is I've read the FAQ and a few of the other posts here, but still don't have the greatest idea on how to to about making something like this pet (the one first mention in the thread). Does anyone have, or would anyone be willing to make,a short tutorial on making quality pets and Xth generation pets? I appreciate your help all.
Tal-N
Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:34 am
#26
Typically pets like this are made using very specific dna or because one or more of the experiments failed causing some bizaare stats, there isn't a guide on how to make ones like this since it only just happened. Those who have been able to recreate the effects know that it requires very specific means so they know it's an exploit. Considering how myself and others butchered their chances of keeping the last two exploits the chances are they won't be forthcoming with the information this time as they try to hide the instances where this is happening.