Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: To the Devs on ill legit Non CH pets...
Akelan
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:19 am
#14
The pet-check code is a time-bomb with a random fuse. Most of the time, a pet that is judged invalid by the code will have the options to "adjust the stats" at the first taming, but this is not universally the case. There have been cases where a pet has been in use for a few days and the pet check pops up, so a successful taming and training is not always a 100% guarantee, though it is pretty likely that one that tames successfully will remain as valid while it matures.
LLan
JarenJade
Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:11 am
#15
sorry for the double post, my computer went wonky on me: I was trying to end the post with this. People know what is avaialble, and as customers they know what to ask for.
JarenJade
Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:16 am
#16
here it is:
http://swvault.ign.com/articles/521/521478p1.html?fromint=1
JayceMilam
Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:00 pm
#17
Get ready for the flood, ... i think this is only the beginning of the end. We better all get ready for the flood of these kind of posts. As these UBER lvl 10's get nerfed we are going to see a backlash from people who have purchased these who are very upset when they become useless. This is exacly the reason I didn't want BE to make and sell these. Ideally the BE's who made and sold these pets will be boycotted and drop the BE profession for something else so good BE's can move past this
Bracci
Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:21 pm
#18
Actually, I've made 4 of these "uber" pets and given them to friends. I told them that nerfing would occur, and they were perfectly happy with it, considering they just wanted them to grind up CH quickly so they could use my CL70 creations (and my paired CL35s).
I think NancyJ should just come up with a canned response to tell any of the people that come in here complaining that they should have known better.
BTW - Nancy - you said 1800 HAM max - is that H+A+M or all three are 1800? Just curious as my bol (wild tamed) is CL10 with 2700 H+A+M (and I'll have to check on resists). The fact is though, we have been told that we can make something SUPERIOR to a wild CL10. I've heard tell that we should be able to make a CL10 that has the stats of a wild CL15. So what would that make the stats be? A cowardly Gurreck or a Bantha?
Also, the statement that CL10 cannot have any resistances can be combatted with The Hermit Spider Guard. I know it's not much of a resist, but it does prove that they *can* have some...
JayceMilam wrote:Get ready for the flood, ... i think this is only the beginning of the end. We better all get ready for the flood of these kind of posts. As these UBER lvl 10's get nerfed we are going to see a backlash from people who have purchased these who are very upset when they become useless. This is exacly the reason I didn't want BE to make and sell these. Ideally the BE's who made and sold these pets will be boycotted and drop the BE profession for something else so good BE's can move past this
I think NancyJ should just come up with a canned response to tell any of the people that come in here complaining that they should have known better.
BTW - Nancy - you said 1800 HAM max - is that H+A+M or all three are 1800? Just curious as my bol (wild tamed) is CL10 with 2700 H+A+M (and I'll have to check on resists). The fact is though, we have been told that we can make something SUPERIOR to a wild CL10. I've heard tell that we should be able to make a CL10 that has the stats of a wild CL15. So what would that make the stats be? A cowardly Gurreck or a Bantha?
Also, the statement that CL10 cannot have any resistances can be combatted with The Hermit Spider Guard. I know it's not much of a resist, but it does prove that they *can* have some...
Message Edited by Bracci on 06-15-2004 12:21 AM
Message Edited by Bracci on 06-15-2004 12:22 AM
Miffy
Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:28 pm
#19
I personally only make and sell legit lvl 10 pets. My pets have a max 1500 ham and maybe 1 or 2 very low lvl resists. I always check them aswell, sure I have sell the quite cheaply but it is far less hassle.
Anyone that seea a lvl 10 pet that has 10k ham and doesn't think to themselves that this might not be ok is just asking for trouble. The pet nerf was listed in the release notes of patch 7? Why wouldn't you read the release notes? This game is constantly changing/updating surely you would want to know if the release affected you/your profession.
second off, if its known these pets are bugged, why can BE's continue to make them?
And why arent they taken from the game, or BE's at least given a range of stats that are ok, even if game schematics wont stop something better.
IE tell be's until we can fix it we are warning you all level ten pets with better then X stats are going to be changed...
There has been enough complaining by us to have this fixed, no one is more eager to get this changed then the BE's
How is that fair?
How is it fair krayt weapons can exist and one guy with a good rifle can KS a group of 10 (even with uber creatures to boot)
Hence the combat rebalance.
Please just read the forums for all the details, you'll find that we're all on the same side.
Talthazar
Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:47 pm
#20
The devs have only known about these pets for about 2 weeks and are working on the Jedi revamp right now (which still needs major work)
I'm confused, these monster pets have been an ongoing problem for months now. Keldarin has made more than one unsuccessful attempt to fix these. What is it they were not aware of prior to two weeks ago?
I'm confused, these monster pets have been an ongoing problem for months now. Keldarin has made more than one unsuccessful attempt to fix these. What is it they were not aware of prior to two weeks ago?
Talthazar
Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:56 pm
#21
Oops, guess I missed this too, but I still have to say huh? I can only assume that Keldarin didn't know because he's been too busy to follow the issue. I certainly reported they were still occuring after the last Official nerfs.
Kevm wrote:
Cindal wrote:
Excuse me but how is it that the devs have only known about these pets for 2 wks?
It was about 2 weeks ago that NancyJ posted a responce from Kel saying he wasn't aware that the monster CL 10 with 10K HAM and 50%+ resists were still possible.
Talthazar
Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:31 pm
#23
Ah ok, I remember that now. Come to think of it, the 10k pets were what we saw before the first pet checks, after that they seemed to die off a little and most were, what? 6k max maybe 7k or 8k? I'd have to look but I think that the highest I last sent inwas 6k, that was when we were told they wouldn't get touched again until after the combat revemp. Could it be that the "non-existent" pet checks of Pub 7 brought these back? Was anyone able to make them between the big "invalid pet" debaucle and pub 7? Could be worth knowing to help track down this problem.
NancyJ
Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:38 pm
#24
The first one I heard about was around march - so i think that was before publish 7.
Ykai
Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:45 pm
#26
Darn thing deleted my response......here it is again....
If SOE can not get to fixing the problem, what is keeping the repectable people of the BE community from not banding together and making an oath to not make any CL-10 pet over a certain HAM and resistance stat? I mean even if not everyone knows about this forum string or the stats, a majority do, and it will keep us from getting a bad name from uneducated people who don't do there homework.
We could work out some details on acceptable levels and stick to it for LVL-10's.
Thoughts?
As a fellow forum and BE said (Sorry for not remembering your name), and it is so true andrespectable to say....
"Play with Honor"
"Play with Honor"