Bio Engineer Archive

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goatt_13 wrote:
As always, thank you for making this thread, Dor. Good information.

Your postings on this forum will forever represent the spirit that can be given to a computer game mechanic.

I'm not excluding anyone else's contributions and thoughts from that notion. I believe most dedicated BE's infused the idea of a field scientist with much more than (whatever was) intended.

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You mean it wasn't real? oh

Dor

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Dorelli wrote:

This is to Lammergeier for all his hard work and to ArthurDent before him. This is to everyone who has been an active member of this forum or a silent member of this forum. This is to all the BE's who never read this forum who won't read this either. This is to me

We were the best and the brightest. We were the persistant. We were stoic in the face of being ignored, we were patient waiting for our turn to come. We dreamed our dreams and crafted out pets and used our brains.

I have enjoyed chatting with you all and getting to know you in game and on the forums. You have beenmy life - my other life - my adult conversation for the past year and a bit.

It's all going away as on-line games do change and evolve (as my husband points out) and everything we have done in-game has been for naught but let me tell you that out of game - you guys have brightened my life and given me much to think about and have brought smiles to my day. I have so much enjoyed being part of this community which is full of clever and witty people that there is NO way I would have met such like-minded people otherwise in my day-to-day life.

Some of you, if you are reading this - i will not let go. Others I will have to.

So, I hate to be persistently optimistic - and I cannot be optimistic in the face of the nightmare that I went to bed on last night and which refuses to go away. But the truth of the matter is - you HAVE made a difference. And it wasn't in-game to all those people buying your pets and tissues and meds. It was to ME. You have cheered my up when I was low. You have given me a reason to use my brain again after years of being a mummy who does no more than confirm that which has been asked of me 20 times in rapid succession. You have given me success when everything else in my life was turning into a disaster. You have been there. For me. And I would like to thank you for that.

One more thing. I think this might be a wake up call to many of us. MMORPG's like this one ARE addictive and can be destructive to lives. I do not know what happened to the last3 years of my children's lives while I was playing Earth and Beyond and SWG. To all the PARENTS out there who are reading this - do not find another MMORPG. And if you do - limit your time on it if you can. These games are more addictive than alcohol and more destructive than gambling - because they are ALWAYS THERE and look innocent enough in the box. They cause us to lose sleep, they cause us to spend time doing repetive things in order to fill in little boxes so we can do more of the same. In the end, they take away those boxes and we wake up and look around and look at our messy houses and our children who we think we spent time with and they are ... well delightful in their own way but different to what they would have been like if we had been paying proper attention to them...

I think that for our family - we are going to try to incorporate our love of gaming into teaching the children to play Dungeons and Dragons and doing it all together. I really hope that it does work.

I am personally disappointed that I will not be chosen as BE correspondant but I recognize now that being a correspondant is not exactly the job it is advertised to be. I have cancelled my account but I see that I am good into February so I might be found in-game ... who knows. I really don't know what will happen - if i can break this addiction - b/c it really IS an addiction for me - or not.

Anyone want to buy my ADK?

Dor

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Well Dor I know what you mean I stoped playing for 6 months just before my son was born and only came back after he was about 4 months old. Now I play about an hour a day if that just to relax before bed. Once he's old enought I hope to get him to plat risk and other board games then move on to RPG's. I always thought they help people open up inside and understand themsleves better (or maybe I'm just a little geeky, who cares). For me my son comes first and always will gameing and such only happens if hes asleep or off with Mommy somewhere, I made that rule to myself before he was born! I hope to see you around before you go as I dont know how long I will stick it out either.

To you and ours best wishes and hug the kids for me. Don't forget to take them out and have some fun!!!!

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Katharian wrote:

Well Dor I know what you mean I stoped playing for 6 months just before my son was born and only came back after he was about 4 months old. Now I play about an hour a day if that just to relax before bed. Once he's old enought I hope to get him to plat risk and other board games then move on to RPG's. I always thought they help people open up inside and understand themsleves better (or maybe I'm just a little geeky, who cares). For me my son comes first and always will gameing and such only happens if hes asleep or off with Mommy somewhere, I made that rule to myself before he was born! I hope to see you around before you go as I dont know how long I will stick it out either.

To you and ours best wishes and hug the kids for me. Don't forget to take them out and have some fun!!!!

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Sometimes, I have been averaginglike6-10hours a day seriously. I work at home. When i can actually work. I program and on a bad day, sometimes I just log into the game for a brief pause and poof all of sudden 3 hours have gone and it's time to get the kids from school. In the middle of doing something in game and so it's park the kids and get back to the game. Where did the work day go? I don't know. What are the kids doing? I don't know. What are the kids of my friends in game doing - oh THAT i can tell you.

This is really bad.

The game sucks time out of you. I don't think you can play a BE in 1 hour a day. I know that dedicated BE's with shops spend all their waking moments running them.

We've changed how we work - we dont' work at home anymore. I want to cut down on my game time. I see myself and my guild friends spent far to much time playing SWG. I know they do and they know they do. They have kids and wives too and I know their wives as well - chatted with them and everyone has the same complaint which is that the game takes all the family time and they are fed up. I'm fed up with ME to be honest.

I want to have a look at the new game but I don't think it will be as fun as being a BE was. I am sorry to admit that I have an addictive personality but I think there are some people who do and some people who don't. Gaming becomes a problem when it starts to interfere with your real-life ... life ... this HAS happened to me.

Sometimes, when things are going well at work and at home, I can play hardly at all. I can manage it and it doesn't call me. But when I am unhappy and things are bad at work, the game sucks me in again.

I'm sorry if this seems like it is written by a desparately unhappy person with no real-life outside the game. It's not true. I do have a happy life and a happy family but ... ok ... there are things in my life I cannot control and it is nice to be able to sink into something immersive that I CAN control to forget about ... for example .. the fact that my ex-husband who is also my friend has just married a woman who can't stand the 2 children we have together and so he has to come see them at OUR house now?

I take the kids to the park. I work when I need to work. I cook when I need to cook and I clean up when I have to. I play the violin in a weekly orchestra. I make sure the kids do their homework... But from 4 pm until 1 am in the morning I am almost always playing SWG or on the forums. This is not good. This is not right.

But my friends in game are not judgemental. My friends on the forum are not judgemental. I owe you all a lot. And, because I have been working at home alone with my husband, you are sometimes the only adult voices I 'hear' all day. And my guildmates go back a long way - from before SWG. There are deep bonds there. Somewhere in all this I need to find some balance. That's why I said what I said about MMORPG's.

So maybe that explains me a bit more. This wasn't meant to be a rant. It's just me. I am me and that's what I am.

Dor

Dorelli, I read that post, and realised just how much you have affected me as well. I was one of those silent BE's always reading, never posting. Recently I began to post and get more involved on the forums, but of course that stops here and now.

As far as coro goes, with no offense to lammergeier (who was doing the best in a terrible situation) you were always there first foradvice to the rest of us. I saw you as our helper, and lammergeier as our voice/fighter.

Best of luck in the future , with everything you do. If you put the passion you demonstrated here into RL, you will conquer all you set out to.

/turns off force cloak

Dorelli, Lammer, and fellow former-BE's,

Some of you guys probablyremember me as ArthurDentOnBria, I cancelledmy BE/crafteraccount early this summer after the guts were torn out of our once proud profession, but I've stayed in the game, persuing the Jedi goal and making new friends. I've trolled the forums some, lurking in this forum in particular as one who will always be a crafter and in particular a BE at heart. I can tell you that I miss our little community here, and I've been pleased to see that the community has carried on in much the same manner that it did while I was here. Lammer did a nice job, nobody could have done better, but as I warned him when he took over, it is avery frustrating and somewhat pointless undertaking.

Looking back it was funny that in many ways I enjoyed this forum as much as the game itself, and probably had more friends in here then I did in-game. AndI was always proud to be associated with the people here. We helped one another, challenged one another to do better, and formed some nice friendships that often carried into the game itself. By contrast I'm pretty ashamed of the Jedi community for the most part and have no desire to take part in it, hence I've for the most part stayed away from the forums altogether (aside from the occasional post and some lurking).

But times they are a-changing again, and for me it appears to once again tear the guts out of the game for me, so I've now cancelled my Jedi account as well. It runs out in January (wouldn't you know it I just switched from month-to-month to every 3 months to save a few bucks, lol) so I'm still here for the time being.

Like many of you, I feel that perhaps I've devoted too much rl time to playing a game, and look forward to channelling more of my free time into other persuits. There is definitely a feeling of sadness and loss, but only a minor amount of biterness. Heck, SWG kept me interested and enjoying the game for 2+ years, that's pretty damn good. I remember that when I first logged in for the very first time, I really didn't care for it at all.

Farewell everyone. For those that stay I hope you find continued enjoyment. Just make sure you plant your foot firmly in the behind of some SOE people from time to time for me and for those that leave, I hope that works out for you too. If every we should meet in another game, I tend to use the same name "arthurdent", so if you see that name, be sure to say hi

Arthur

Message Edited by GoldMemberBria on 11-03-2005 04:09 PM

Geez, after finally getting logged into the forums I get bumped off doing PMs. Thankfully it's calmed down some and I was able to get back in - LOL, I was beginning to get an inferiority complex...

Dor, like you I am good until the end of February. I got my cancellation in last night before SOE put our ability to cancel on lockdown. I'll be on Test Center tomorrow and see what we see but after reading the posts by Tiggs I feel no desire to continue as SWG holds no joy for me other than the friends I have made in game.

The BE community is and will always be the best community SWG has ever seen. I would like to thank all the talented people who posted here and helped me years ago on my trek to Master BE. The dedication to the profession you have all shown is nothing short of amazing.

Over 25 years ago I started down a path drawn by George Lucas. I purchased everything, silly or not, related to Star Wars. I had every book, all the toys, the games, and then my son gave me SWG for my birthday. I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

I did so enjoy my time in SWG more so because of the people I met here and the professions I pursued and grew to love. I will truly miss sampling all the critters I see, creating pets, and taming babies. Sure there is still going to be an entertainer profession (who knew the buff bots and AFK 'tainers who destroyed our gameplay would end up saving our profession by increasing it's numbers) but all ent all the time in SWG will not fill the void that was created when SOE single-handedly destroyed that profession when they gave out the holiday holocrons.

I wish you all the best in whatever you pursue, be it here or in some other genre. I am proud to be one of your fellows.

Don't get me wrong Dor I love you to death and don't blame you for your addiction I very much understand it. Before my wife was pregers I played 6 + hours a day. It was when she got pregers I looked at my life very differently and made that choice to only play and hour or so a day. I was damn hard to do also!!! No that my son is walking and talking (they are cute little monsters at 11 months) he keeps me pretty busy anyway. It helps keep my mind off the game and wanting to play (thankfully!).

As for the Kids I know you are doing a wonderfull Job with them its you after all. Since I had mine I'm a frim beliver in parks and lots of games board, RPG, whatever as long as its not including a monitor . This seems to keep the baby happy and seems to work for me also. Oh maybe Disneyland would be good this year! well enought ranting form me see you all later and love you Dor.

P.S. I nevr thought you where a sad lonely person, your one of the most fun people on the forums Cinn is also right up there with you!

I wish that I could find eloquent words, but that lump in my throat chokes me all up whenever I try to compose my thoughts in a coherent way.

I cannot express the deep hurt and sadness I feel from hearing that we will be no more after all the hard work we've all put in. Reading Dor's post here made me lose it. I won't ever be able to share my gratitude to all of the BEs here- I could tell you all every day for the rest of our lives how grateful I am, but it'd never be enough. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

And Dor... *sniffles* /hero. You were my inspiration. You still are my hero!