Bio Engineer Archive

I'm assuming you're a novice but you didnt specify so correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Brandy!
2. Ahrisa!
You will need high mind stats, and a pack of stim B's will come in handy for the action burn.

Failure rate at novice on cl5 critters is 50% - yeah it sucks but it will get better.
I would recommend getting at least DNA Sampling 1 on yard trash (the kind of critters you find behind starports and near starting cities)

Well, dna sampling is obviously modelled after "surveying" in the artisan tree, so if you think of it in those terms, it's pretty consistent.

As far as sampling failure rate, it's really difficult if you sample things that are "over your level" and I hear it's especially brutal for novices. It does get better though. As a master you probably succeed at sampling most things at about a 75% rate or so I'm guessing.

As far as exhausting your mind, your mind really shouldn't be getting exhausted that quickly. If it does, check your encumberance. Are you being silly and wearing a helmet? If that is not the problem then yea, you have a choice of becoming permanenetly addicted to brandy, or to visit an ID and migrate your stats to be more "BE-like". My stats are not freakishly skewed or anything, but with a reasonable amount of mind/focus/willpower I almost never need to consume any food to aid my sampling.

"It does get better though. As a master you probably succeed at sampling most things at about a 75% rate or so I'm guessing"


Unless you are an MBE trying to sample Mutant Rancor DNA, which is always an excercise in unpredictability

I dunno, what are the odds of getting incapped if you are careful, and if you do get incapped, what are the odds that it's as a result of a blow to the head? Unarmored I can usually survive 2 hits before I'm down, and that's usually sufficient for a getaway. I'd say I can attempt around 10 samples before my mind is caput. That is generally enough to either get all the samples I want from the lair, draw aggro, or kill off the things that I'm sampling. The only time I drink anything is when sampling MR's, and that is because I can sometimes fail that many times before I geta sample or draw aggro.

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Kryxal wrote:

I have my stats completely level (well, almost ... there's a bit more emphasis on Mind in the secondaries). With this, I can sample 3 times in quick succession in full Ubese minus helmet, unbuffed. This is usually sampling something somewhat dangerous, so I'll likely stop at 2 and let my mind come back some, why risk incap? This also means that if I need the armour, I'm one piece short, which is far faster.

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Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 12-09-2004 09:51 AM

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Kivrin wrote:

You begin sampling the creature for DNA.

Failed to get a viable DNA sample.

You begin sampling the creature for DNA.

Failed to get a viable DNA sample.

You are too tired to sample DNA right now.

You are too tired to sample DNA right now.

You are too tired to sample DNA right now.

You are too tired to sample DNA right now.

You are too tired to sample DNA right now.

You are too tired to sample DNA right now.

You cannot sample DNA while crouching.

You are unable to sample DNA right now.

You begin sampling the the creature for DNA.

You have successfully sampled DNA from the creature.

You receive 70 points DNA sampling XP.

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The last line obviously got truncated:

"You cannot sample from a corpse."

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NancyJ wrote:
I'm assuming you're a novice but you didnt specify so correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Brandy!
2. Ahrisa!
You will need high mind stats, and a pack of stim B's will come in handy for the action burn.

Failure rate at novice on cl5 critters is 50% - yeah it sucks but it will get better.
I would recommend getting at least DNA Sampling 1 on yard trash (the kind of critters you find behind starports and near starting cities)

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I like to stack mind buffs, brandy, Vagnerian Canape, and Jawa beer while wearing my scent enhanced pants and shirt.

It works great until the first deathblow by the mutant rancor who refused to admit that I had overpurchased him.

I needed a screenshot of my worst. After an entire day of trying to get close enough to the mutant rancor to sample him, I finally crept up on him without him noticing. I tried and got the message "You are too far away to sample the creature." I checked my distance: 1m. I made sure the rancor I was standing next to was the one I had selected. I moved to 0 m (directly under the rancor) and tried again. Still too far away.

I didn't know how to do screenshots then, but I desperately wanted a screenshot of me standing in shirt and pants unarmed DIRECTLY under a rancor with the caption in white across the top of the screen, so kindly provided by the system: "You are too far away to sample the creature."

Today I built a critter specifically to sample for a 2nd gen pet. It was in my pack the whole time.

You failed to get a viable DNA sample
You failed to get a viable DNA sample
You failed to get a viable DNA sample

...?

Darn thing up and died without getting a single sample. And this is at DNA 4 sampling a level 13 critter!

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Halthron wrote:
Today I built a critter specifically to sample for a 2nd gen pet. It was in my pack the whole time.

You failed to get a viable DNA sample
You failed to get a viable DNA sample
You failed to get a viable DNA sample

...?

Darn thing up and died without getting a single sample. And this is at DNA 4 sampling a level 13 critter!

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Full inventory?

75% full at the time