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Considering you only have Hunting IV and can't see the CL in the display window, how do you know you'll be able to sample from this or that creature ?

Do you look at its overall HAM ?

• If so, what can be sampled at novice ?


• Then at sampling 1 ?


• Sampling 2 ?


• Sampling 3 ?


• Sampling 4 ?

I heard Masters were limited to CL70 or 75...

Would somebody have a rough idea of max HAM at each of those levels ? Thanks !

Being much of a noob, I'll try and answer your question as best I can. I don't believe that you are at all limited by the creature level as to whether you can sample it or not. It should be possible to sample any creature at any level. However, your chance of success and quality of sample will be much less at the lower sampling levels. I think this is correct? I'm only at sampling 1, but have successfully sampled some critters I would have little chance of defeating solo, such as voritor dashers, piket plains walkers and fambaas etc.

YeahArrnAvan is right. When I was a novice I sampled pikets, gurks, perleks, rancors. You should be able to dna sample everything.

Oh okie !!!

Thanks to you both !

You might pick stuff that is yellow and doesn't deathblow too. That saves a lot of trips back and forth from the cloning facility.

Dantooine has a lot of pikets, bolles and a few other 'yellow' critters that give good experience. I sampled those and in no time was at Sampling IV.

actualy arm, i sampled alot of bolle bols with out sampleing 1, it was pretty good, but they usualy died after one sample, but the samples were half-decent, im guessing if you try to DNA sample a rancor with sampleing 1,and it fails, it will 99.9% of the time aggro you

well as a Master, I would recommend you not attempting to sample anything over cl75 as it is a big waste of time. I've spent hous trying it woth no results to show for it except a few dozen trips to the cloning center. Their used to not be a cap but it appears that their is definitely a ceiling now on what you can pull a sample from.

-Bochuu

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FortunoFiasco wrote:

I heard Masters were limited to CL70 or 75...

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As Bochuu said we believe that to be true. Also as he implied we have only circumstantial evidence that, that is true. Most of us (MBEs that is) when first sampling a CL75 creature got many, many failures before our first success. I've seen several threads asking if it was really even possible or just some big hairy goose chase. In case you interested it is possible. Know one that I know of has sampled anything of a higher level than 75 but the only in game indication we get that it isn't possible, is repeated failures on sampling attempts. That of course is something we get with Mutant Rancors. With patience though they can be sampled.

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mrmark200000 wrote:
im guessing if you try to DNA sample a rancor with sampleing 1,and it fails, it will 99.9% of the time aggro you

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I believe not actually. The chance of being aggrod goes UP as you get more skill in sampling. Its been a listed issue for BE for some time. As your skill goes up the quality of the sample goes up, the chance the creature will survive the sample goes up and as a result the chance of being aggrod goes up.

Enraged Rancors (CL 85) and I forget the name of it but its another Rancor type (CL 95) both found on Dathomire you cannot get samples from.

Also super high levled things will also yield no samples, I dont know what the cap is but we got a Cap sometime in November.

Anywise, if you are not a master you will not be able to sample level 50 creatures, as you can keep doing it, get a failed to get a viable DNA sample message and the creature will eventually die.

I am not sure what the CAP is for Masters, since the highest I sampled from was level 70, but then again, the odd part was that the creature died after 3 samples.

Other lower level things I can sample alot, but then others of low levels will become aggrivated after a single attempt.

So there you go.

And no I did not go to a clone center alot to try the level 85 and 95 Creatures.

I was with this player who was a master tera kasi, who used buffs, and got more buffs from a doctor and dancer.

He took them down like they where nothing, he was only doing about 2000+ damage per attack.

And I used My Masked Scent which is level 100 with clothes that gave a combined total of 134.
(100 - 125 just dont work on these thingsvery well, they break the scent within seconds at those levels, even faster the lower level you have)

So there you go, hope this helps people.

I am on Dathomire Right now in fact on the scylla server, so if anyone wants to join the fun they can, but be forewarned its a long process, and very danagerous due to all the creatures. And with number greater then 15 then well no matter what level masked scent you have they will break it.

I currently only have DNA 1. I went to Dathomir last night and couldn't sample anything over 40. Even with Muon I was having trouble sampling. Got some gaping spider and mutant baz nitch. That's about it.

I tried bolmas of varying types, gaping spider hunters. No luck after a half hour of trying to sample each of those. I might try Yavin 4 for some mid-level creatures to sample while I'm still low level.

As far as I know you have to be a master scout before you'll see the CL of the creature. I think given what others have said here the biggest byte of info you need is whether they db or not and I don't know where you'd get that (at what skill level).

Ithink whatthe original posterwas asking was whether there is a block on the level of creature he could sample, much the same as the "You can't tame that" message you get when trying to tame creatures beyond your limit as a CH, not what his chances of success would be against this critter compared to that critter. I'm well aware of the almost non-existant chance of success against some top level geezers, but it doesn't mean to say it's not possible (unless there really is a cap, of course).

Is that right Fortuno?