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Thread: Non CH pet owners changing that stats on their pets

Miffy
Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:47 am
#1

Hi I'm fairly new to Bio Engineer but I'm wondering if anyone can give me some info. Yesterday two pets were sold off my vendor two cl 10 gurrcats with 2k hams and 70-80 damage..ish.


Apparently when the non ch guys tried to tame it, it wanted them to either change the cl level or the stats. Both of them went for stats and itwrecked the pet.


I happened to be in Anchorhead at the time and I had both of them come up shouting, "Don't buy Miffy Junos Pets their s*it!" All of a sudden everyone was around me accusing me of ripping people of? Whats going on? I tried to explain that I didn't have anything to do it but they must have been new as they said that Idid something to the pet to make it do that so I could get their money. Now I'm finding it very difficult to sell my pets because of those two. One of them decided to start spamming my mail box just to annoy me. So now I've lost money and got 2 pets that I have to destroy. I going to put up a message on my vendor warning people about but is there anythingI can do?


I don't blame them, I would have been pissed off but because of this I've lost a lot of creditability
Joilhath
Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:23 am
#2

I wouldn't be too woried about it, if you refunded the purchase price you haven't lost any credability with people that actually have a clue. What's sad is you can make a 10k ham non ch pet and it will be valid where your 2k ham pet wasn't.



Joilhath Master Creature Handler/Master Bio Engineer
Joilhoth Master Artisan/Master Tailor/Master Chef
Oskiss Master Tera Kasi Artist/Master Doctor
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Entropism
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:05 am
#3

Seriously, what's the deal with that? I got a few off the bazaar when I was working novice, and the stats went from say, 3K HAM 100 dmg to 1100 HAM for a lvl 11, yet my lvl 11 5K HAM 130 dmg works fine. I found it odd, and just passed it off as stock made pre-nerf. The 6K creditsdon't bother me, and I won't actually complain, but I did send the BE a note warning them about the possible dangers.



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Joilhath
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:32 am
#4






Entropism wrote:

Seriously, what's the deal with that? I got a few off the bazaar when I was working novice, and the stats went from say, 3K HAM 100 dmg to 1100 HAM for a lvl 11, yet my lvl 11 5K HAM 130 dmg works fine. I found it odd, and just passed it off as stock made pre-nerf. The 6K creditsdon't bother me, and I won't actually complain, but I did send the BE a note warning them about the possible dangers.





Umm you asked the million dollar question why do you think BE's were a little upset with both our FF and TH's 19 questions. It's a crap shoot with new low level recipes and if you don't have some CH skills you don't know till someone buys it if it's valid or not.

Message Edited by Joilhath on 04-26-2004 04:34 PM



Joilhath Master Creature Handler/Master Bio Engineer
Joilhoth Master Artisan/Master Tailor/Master Chef
Oskiss Master Tera Kasi Artist/Master Doctor
Owner and Operator of Pets Needs (-6141, -915) Corellia in Pax Gallatica Mall
Miffy
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:42 am
#5

Excuse my ignorance here, so is this supposed to happen?! I'm assuming its to stop non ch people from buying overly powerful lvl 10 pets. If it is then that sucks! I thought it was a bug. I dropped all my ch skills yesterday in favor of Bio Engineer, because CH was a waist of time in my opinion after all the changes that had been done to it. Now I wish I hadn't. I'm all for the crackdown on powerful cl 10 pets, but thats rediculous. The first one had just a little over 1,5k hams and did 75 ish damage I don't see that being overly powerful? The majoirty of the people that are buying my cl 10 pets are new to the game and obviously have no idea on the issue that is at hand. I'm not new at all and I didn't even know, everytime this happens I'm going to have to refund people like I had to yesterday, Please correct if I'm wrong before I start a massive rant about it
Andymantium
Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:14 am
#6

Miffy, I wouldn't worry about it too much, since you refunded their money. As for what actually happened, well I'm not sure what happened


Anyways, if they persist in sending you hate emails, just file a harassment /report.





K

Joilhath
Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:10 am
#7






Miffy wrote:
Excuse my ignorance here, so is this supposed to happen?! I'm assuming its to stop non ch people from buying overly powerful lvl 10 pets. If it is then that sucks! I thought it was a bug. I dropped all my ch skills yesterday in favor of Bio Engineer, because CH was a waist of time in my opinion after all the changes that had been done to it. Now I wish I hadn't. I'm all for the crackdown on powerful cl 10 pets, but thats rediculous. The first one had just a little over 1,5k hams and did 75 ish damage I don't see that being overly powerful? The majoirty of the people that are buying my cl 10 pets are new to the game and obviously have no idea on the issue that is at hand. I'm not new at all and I didn't even know, everytime this happens I'm going to have to refund people like I had to yesterday, Please correct if I'm wrong before I start a massive rant about it






The pet checks are SUPPOSED to stop over powered no ch pets but they don't and the only why to really know if your pet is going to get called legal or not is try to tame one then use the same recipe for the others NORMALLY pets using the same recipe are all invalid or all safe.



Joilhath Master Creature Handler/Master Bio Engineer
Joilhoth Master Artisan/Master Tailor/Master Chef
Oskiss Master Tera Kasi Artist/Master Doctor
Owner and Operator of Pets Needs (-6141, -915) Corellia in Pax Gallatica Mall
Miffy
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:03 am
#8

well judging by the changes that were made to these pets cl 10's are going to have 900 hams. Surely putting that process in before someone tames the pet would have been a better idea. Like when crafting the peta messagepops and says a "non ch will have to change its stats" so you can make the potential customer aware of this fact, or just have it so anything over 900 hams for example a cl 11 pet. Well thats my 2 cents anyway
Alfee
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:41 am
#9

Hi Miffy,



Same thing happened to me. I gave a guy a nice lvl 10 Cu Pa it only had just under 2K ham and he was asked to change level or stats, he chose stats and it was ruined! I was mortified. I made him another, strangely enough with higher stats and it worked fine!! I would just rather refund people or supply a replacement.


Incidentally, I'm a Master CH and almost Master BE. I love CH too much to drop it and I love making my own pets.



Linchung


Gorath


Senavi
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:53 am
#10

A few questions. I'm new to both the worlds of BE and CH and I have a few questions. The first, I don't really expect anyone to answer, since nobody on the CH board even tried, but here goes. Non-CH are supposed to be able to control CL 10 pets, right? Before I got NCH, I couldn't control a level 10 lesser plains bol (900ham, 100 > attack, similar mundane stats). Why? It didn't give me any "you have to modify this pet's stats" message. It just said I had no chance of controlling the pet.


In any case, here's my second question. I started sampling dna the other day. I started out on the low cl creatures, like the critters outside of Coronet. When I'd sample I noticed that they'd die. Now, being a complete noob to BE, I was thinking this was probably because they went aggro after I got the sample and I smashed them like the bugs they were (also being a TKN). But I decided to go sample some of the higher CL creatures on Endor and the same thing happened. The sampling killed them. Is that supposed to happen? I didn't think I was supposed to be able to samplekill a redstar in one hit...


Makes me wonder if they'll ever let us sample other players...


notrom
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:56 am
#11

about cu pa's ne one else had a problem with them ? i have a cl 10 4 k ham cu pa and its dumber than a rock =/ it wont follow when you heal it sometimes it takes 10 mins for the heal to register if it will at all



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Wulfgarin
Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:21 am
#12






Senavi wrote:

A few questions. I'm new to both the worlds of BE and CH and I have a few questions. The first, I don't really expect anyone to answer, since nobody on the CH board even tried, but here goes. Non-CH are supposed to be able to control CL 10 pets, right? Before I got NCH, I couldn't control a level 10 lesser plains bol (900ham, 100 > attack, similar mundane stats). Why? It didn't give me any "you have to modify this pet's stats" message. It just said I had no chance of controlling the pet. My best answer on this one is you already had too many pets in your datapad, or you had a droid or other pet called at the time. There is no reason you should have been unable to control that pet.


In any case, here's my second question. I started sampling dna the other day. I started out on the low cl creatures, like the critters outside of Coronet. When I'd sample I noticed that they'd die. Now, being a complete noob to BE, I was thinking this was probably because they went aggro after I got the sample and I smashed them like the bugs they were (also being a TKN). But I decided to go sample some of the higher CL creatures on Endor and the same thing happened. The sampling killed them. Is that supposed to happen? I didn't think I was supposed to be able to samplekill a redstar in one hit... As you increase in levels you will often be able to take multiple samples from mobs. My personal best is 9 samples from a single mob before it died.


Makes me wonder if they'll ever let us sample other players...








Kevm
Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:23 am
#13






Senavi wrote:

A few questions. I'm new to both the worlds of BE and CH and I have a few questions. The first, I don't really expect anyone to answer, since nobody on the CH board even tried, but here goes. Non-CH are supposed to be able to control CL 10 pets, right? Before I got NCH, I couldn't control a level 10 lesser plains bol (900ham, 100 > attack, similar mundane stats). Why? It didn't give me any "you have to modify this pet's stats" message. It just said I had no chance of controlling the pet.


In any case, here's my second question. I started sampling dna the other day. I started out on the low cl creatures, like the critters outside of Coronet. When I'd sample I noticed that they'd die. Now, being a complete noob to BE, I was thinking this was probably because they went aggro after I got the sample and I smashed them like the bugs they were (also being a TKN). But I decided to go sample some of the higher CL creatures on Endor and the same thing happened. The sampling killed them. Is that supposed to happen? I didn't think I was supposed to be able to samplekill a redstar in one hit...


Makes me wonder if they'll ever let us sample other players...









Not sure about your lesser plains bol problem, but I can give you info about your sampling questions.


When you sample DNA there are a few things that can happen, you can fail but not get agro, you can fail and get agro, you can succeed w/o agro, succeed with agro, and succeed and kill the creature. The lower lvl your sampling skills are the higher the change of either getting agro, or killing the creature when you sample.


So, as a Sampling 1 BE its normal for you to kill a lot of the creatures you sampl e from. You success rates will increase as you level up.




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