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Thread: Frenzied Graul DNA Rare?
Physkoris wrote:
This may be a little off topic but here goes.. What are the top 10 best creatures to sample from. I know Mutant Rancors and Merek Harvesters are up in the list. But what about the other types of creatures? I know there's gotta be something really cool on Yavin 4. Can anyone provide me a list?
When planning a pet, I usually spend a bit of time at swgcreatures.com trying to get the specials I want with the resistances I want. That being said, there are no real best samples, just best samples for what you are looking for. Popular samples in recipes include:
Mutant Rancor, Merek Death's Head, Merek Harvester, Young Malkloc Plainswalkers, Bark Mite Burrower, Bark Mite Burrower Queen, Huurton Pup, Voritor Dasher, Arachne Widow, various Mantigures, many others.
Although it doesn't appear in most recipes, I'd include Reclusive Cavern Spider Queen. This is really helpful DNA, but VERY difficult to obtain. I took several guildies down to the cave this past week. After a couple of hours working our way down, we got to the last few spiders and the queen aggroed one of our members. She died before he could peace out.
I was sad to lose the DNA, but it was worth it just to hear her surprise when Kiin' Dray spawned right on top of one of our group. It startled her so badly, I thought she'd be incapped just from the shock. What a great special that would be: Strong Startle (Your opponent faints dead away from the shock.)
Vuldranye wrote:
I happened to find a half dozen frenzied Grauls tonight on Dantooine and now have a dozen samples of DNA (approx.). Are these rare samples? I only ask, because I dont want to waste them if I am never likely to see Frenzied Grauls again. This is the first time I ever looked for them. I found a nest of them that spawned 5 consecutive FGs and found a lone FG wanderer.
Just Curious,
Vu
since the fix, just people solo-grouping for xp are milling around the mining outpost now, so the spawns are more frequent
Vuldranye wrote:
I happened to find a half dozen frenzied Grauls tonight on Dantooine and now have a dozen samples of DNA (approx.). Are these rare samples? I only ask, because I dont want to waste them if I am never likely to see Frenzied Grauls again. This is the first time I ever looked for them. I found a nest of them that spawned 5 consecutive FGs and found a lone FG wanderer.
Just Curious,
Vul
Tycalibur wrote:
Vuldranye,
Now I'm realizing he probably just had poor scent mask. Fortunately, my BE alt is also grinding to Master Ranger.
Anyway, thanks for the info. I was curious about sampling them.
Barogas Ieriv
BE 1-1-2-0
Ranger 1-2-1-0
Howdy. Just trolling through. Pardon the intrusion.
I've spent much of the past week tracking the elusive graul marauder, and during the hunt I encountered many frenzied grauls S/SW of the Imperial outpost. They're pretty plentiful, at least on Naritus.
I'm curious-- how many of you ask Rangers for help? I get pretty tired of the countless 'hey find me a krayt' and 'I need the hero of tat badge' tracking requests, not to mention the requests to track jedi knight trial critters. (No really, it's fun combing the wastes for a creature that may not even exist on the planet at the moment while your client is off doing something fun.) I have never been approached by a BE asking for help, and I'd actually enjoy acting as a tracker/bodyguard for one of you.
It comes to my mind that many of you may be put off by the large fees we sometimes charge (anywhere from 100k to 500k an hour for tracking). I can't speak for other rangers, but when I quote a price like this, it's because I really don't want the job. The content/camaraderie of tracking for and protecting a BE would make it worthwhile-- I would substantially lower, or drop altogether, my usual tracking fee for a BE. I know many rangers would do the same.
You guys are truly the unsung heroes of this game. The great buff foods that most of us find crucial to our livelihoods wouldn't be possible without you. After the CURB, your value will only increase (though you'll most likely still be unacknowledged by the teeming masses who aren't clear on what a BE is/does).
I invite any BE's (especially Imperials)on Naritus who would like a ranger's help to contact me. I know this isn't the trade forum and I apologize for the pitch, but I don't want money. My bank account is at a comfortable level, and what I want is content and the opportunity to help my community. Thanks for listening and, again, sorry for the intrusion.
al-djinn'i
Master Ranger/TKM
Message Edited by Temujin23 on 01-19-2005 12:36 PM
Temujin23 wrote:
Tycalibur wrote:Vuldranye,Now I'm realizing he probably just had poor scent mask. Fortunately, my BE alt is also grinding to Master Ranger.Anyway, thanks for the info. I was curious about sampling them.Barogas IerivBE 1-1-2-0Ranger 1-2-1-0Howdy. Just trolling through. Pardon the intrusion.
I've spent much of the past week tracking the elusive graul marauder, and during the hunt I encountered many frenzied grauls S/SW of the Imperial outpost. They're pretty plentiful, at least on Naritus.
I'm curious-- how many of you ask Rangers for help? I get pretty tired of the countless 'hey find me a krayt' and 'I need the hero of tat badge' tracking requests, not to mention the requests to track jedi knight trial critters. (No really, it's fun combing the wastes for a creature that may not even exist on the planet at the moment while your client is off doing something fun.) I have never been approached by a BE asking for help, and I'd actually enjoy acting as a tracker/bodyguard for one of you.
It comes to my mind that many of you may be put off by the large fees we sometimes charge (anywhere from 100k to 500k an hour for tracking). I can't speak for other rangers, but when I quote a price like this, it's because I really don't want the job. The content/camaraderie of tracking for and protecting a BE would make it worthwhile-- I would substantially lower, or drop altogether, my usual tracking fee for a BE. I know many rangers would do the same.
You guys are truly the unsung heroes of this game. The great buff foods that most of us find crucial to our livelihoods wouldn't be possible without you. After the CURB, your value will only increase (though you'll most likely still be unacknowledged by the teeming masses who aren't clear on what a BE is/does).
I invite any BE's (especially Imperials) on Naritus who would like a ranger's help to contact me. I know this isn't the trade forum and I apologize for the pitch, but I don't want money. My bank account is at a comfortable level, and what I want is content and the opportunity to help my community. Thanks for listening and, again, sorry for the intrusion.
al-djinn'i
Master Ranger/TKM
Message Edited by Temujin23 on 01-19-2005 12:36 PM
don't mistake "trolling" or "trade forum" guidelines with "goodwill" and "helpful posts".
I'm not on Naritus, my BioE isn't imperial, and as a ranger myself, I can track solo.
even so, it NEVER bothers me to see a player pop in to a forum they don't frequent and offer help. heaping praise on BioE's probably doesn't hurt, either.
the fact is: your intent here is NOT to offer a trade service, nor to make a suggestion about a profession you don't play daily. you're OK in my book (as most rangers are).
when I take a custom order, I often encourage the client to follow me around for the hours it takes me to gather the DNA, then back home to combine... and sometimes crit fail... the order. if they're willing to put up with it, they get the order free. they may or may not tip me, but they get a good tutorial in the perils of BioE cloning... and when they come back for more orders, they usually set the price higher than I would have asked.
creds aren't everything, and I think there are a lot of players out there that understand this. using credits as a 'gate' to weed out the less palatable contracts (whether tracking the "moisture farmer" or making "teh ub3r n0nCH clonezorz") is a good practice, and pricing work on a case-by-case basis is a GREAT practice.
Temujin23 wrote:
Howdy. Just trolling through. Pardon the intrusion.
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I'm curious-- how many of you ask Rangers for help?...I have never been approached by a BE asking for help, and I'd actually enjoy acting as a tracker/bodyguard for one of you.
It comes to my mind that many of you may be put off by the large fees we sometimes charge (anywhere from 100k to 500k an hour for tracking).I can't speak for other rangers, but when I quote a price like this, it's because I really don't want the job. The content/camaraderie of tracking for and protecting a BE would make it worthwhile-- I would substantially lower, or drop altogether, my usual tracking fee for a BE. I know many rangers would do the same.
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I invite any BE's (especially Imperials)on Naritus who would like a ranger's help to contact me. I know this isn't the trade forum and I apologize for the pitch, but I don't want money. My bank account is at a comfortable level, and what I want is content and the opportunity to help my community. Thanks for listening and, again, sorry for the intrusion.
al-djinn'i
Master Ranger/TKM
Message Edited by Temujin23 on 01-19-2005 12:36 PM
First off, I want to thank you for your post. I don't see it as trolling, an intrusion, off-topic, or in any way objectionable.
I wish you were on my server. I'd look you up. I have tried to find a ranger to help me before, but rangers have been severely hurt as a profession lately, so they are as hard to find as BE's.
I *have* been put off by the fees I have heard. I have spent several hours searching, a few hours sampling (and dying), then time in the lab experimenting, failing, and going to get more sample only to end up with a pet that sells for less than one hour of ranger time. There are still people out there who insist pets should sell for no more than 1K per CL. I recently increased my prices substantially, but even at my new rates, I wouldn't be able to afford a ranger at the rates I usually hear.
On the other hand, if, as you mentioned, a ranger were around to help just for the fun of exploration, I'd jump at the chance to take advantage of that person's expertise. I wouldn't think of asking him to go out searching for my creature without going along with him. I might as well ask him to research the specials for the pet I want, too.
Actually, a ranger would be a BE's best ally. A ranger would be more efficient at collecting eggs, milk, and meat. I hope (but don't know) that a ranger would also be better at fishing. A ranger could add Dathomir (or whatever planet) Camouflage to all my scent enhancements before I try to approach high-level creatures to sample. And, as you mentioned, a ranger could help me find that elusive malignant squill, vexedvoritor,or pygmy bantha. A ranger has all we need for pet making except sleeping darts to make a creature sleep through sampling.
The only bad part about this is that pets are made by one abused profession for another. There is no decent amount of money anywhere in the picture. Putting another abused profession further down the line means that the amount of money that would make it that far down would be laughable. It is hard to make a dry spring trickle down.
And back to your apology: rangers are always welcome on this forum. You never need to apologize here. We see CH, Rangers, and BE all in the same light.
Hehe, ok, well I'll share some numbers with you, so you can appreciate the economics of such a proposition. I price most of my ch pets in the 60k - 75k range. I think that is pretty close to average for Bria, and they don't fly off the shelf at that price, and I certainly don't seem to have problems with competitors trying to buy me out. At that price, I'd say that roughly equates to maybe 50k/hour in terms of hourly pay. To make a pet it may take me 3-4 hours total, but I can make half a dozen pets with the dna that I get in that time, so 50k/hour sounds about right. So in order to hire a ranger to help, if I was to hire a ranger at 50k/hr, my profit would be 0cr. I also realize that in the hour that I could pay the ranger 50k, that same ranger could probably go out and earn himself several hundred k hunting avian birds for docs. There is the problem with hiring ranger for pet-making. Therefore such a request to a ranger amounts to asking a favor, certainly not a profitable venture for the ranger.
Temujin23 wrote:
It comes to my mind that many of you may be put off by the large fees we sometimes charge (anywhere from 100k to 500k an hour for tracking). I can't speak for other rangers, but when I quote a price like this, it's because I really don't want the job. The content/camaraderie of tracking for and protecting a BE would make it worthwhile-- I would substantially lower, or drop altogether, my usual tracking fee for a BE. I know many rangers would do the same.
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 01-21-2005 05:23 PM
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Hehe, ok, well I'll share some numbers with you, so you can appreciate the economics of such a proposition. I price most of my ch pets in the 60k - 75k range. I think that is pretty close to average for Bria, and they don't fly off the shelf at that price, and I certainly don't seem to have problems with competitors trying to buy me out. At that price, I'd say that roughly equates to maybe 50k/hour in terms of hourly pay. To make a pet it may take me 3-4 hours total, but I can make half a dozen pets with the dna that I get in that time, so 50k/hour sounds about right. So in order to hire a ranger to help, if I was to hire a ranger at 50k/hr, my profit would be 0cr. I also realize that in the hour that I could pay the ranger 50k, that same ranger could probably go out and earn himself several hundred k hunting avian birds for docs. There is the problem with hiring ranger for pet-making. Therefore such a request to a ranger amounts to asking a favor, certainly not a profitable venture for the ranger.
True, rangers can make huge profits harvesting for docs and armorsmiths. That's sort of the job aspect of our profession. But we don't hunt all the time-- that would be just as dull as tracking for a jedi or badge hunter. If I had a choice between finding a peko peko albatross for a jedi and getting paid (at least) 100k an hour, or adventuring with a Bio-engineer who needs genetic samples and not getting paid, I'll take the BE without hesitation.
I posted a message to my own forum earlier today. (Sorry, I don't know how to make clickies.) It's gotten some good responses so far, and if any Bio-engineers want to chip in over there, please do so.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=85758
al-djinn'i
Master Ranger/TKM