Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: making schematics for people
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mozter2112
Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:15 am
#1
i know most of you are against it, but i'm guessing just against selling them. for instance i have a chef friend who was willing to give me all the resources to do a full run for her, but rather than tie up my factory for days i just gave her the schematic. in return she hooks me up with brandy and jawa beer. now that i thought about it, i was thinking maybe that's no so good for the economy since normally she would be buying all those crates. what do you guys think? and technically a crate of jawa beer and brandy here and there isn't worth nearly as much as a fully run of INN's. i have a guild mate that i give addatives to when he needs them, but he also allows me access to his plethora of organic resources whenever i need them so i think it balances out.
CptAdder
Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:41 am
#2
Since on my server outside of a few german speaking BE's and a few 0-4-0-4's I'm the only Master running around I normal charge 10k a hundred uses for any scehmatic and thats worked well for me
Spazzers
Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:10 am
#3
It would depend on the amount of food your chef is giving you. Actually, your chef is paying you for the schematic with the food items.
A full run of INN can sell for 1.5 - 2 mil depending on your server. Some more, some less. A crate of brandy sells for 175K - 300K, again, depending on your server. If your chef is giving you a full crate of brandy in casks every time you make a schematic I'd say you're probably making a fair trade.
ArthurDentOnBria
Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:56 am
#4
I still think that the best arrangement is for you and he to exchange schematics if you must do it in terms of schematics. You both use food/chem schematics, you both harvest high quality resources, no reason why he can't provide you with a brandy schematic and a jawa beer schematic in exchange for your tissue schematics.
Bendi_James
Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:16 pm
#5
I can say that I don't sell very many schematics.....not too many chefs or tailors ask for them. They simply ask where my vendor is and I tell them I don't have one. It's pretty peaceful after that.....lol. I suppose I could offer to make them a schematic on a one for one basis, as Arthur has suggested...not a bad trade. I could also see selling the schematic to a chef or tailor for a sizable amount of credits.
As far as the Brandy and Jawa Beer goes well.....
Does anyone ever get the notion that MR's get a little message that pops up says, "You detect a Master Bio-Engineerwithin "x" metersof you andthey havebooze?"
Maybe that's why I keep getting aggro'd when I am pickled......lol. 
Blueblooded
Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:01 pm
#6
I dont sell schematics..full stop.
Even when sales are poor. I still dont sell schematics.
If i did though, Id rather do an exchange for them..either food or food schematics
Even when sales are poor. I still dont sell schematics.
If i did though, Id rather do an exchange for them..either food or food schematics
NancyJ
Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:02 pm
#7
As far as schematic trading goes, you have to weigh up the economic effect you will have by doing so.
Generally speaking, making a schematic for a friend every once in a while isnt really going to harm the game as a whole.
but you have to think of it in percentages,
If there was only 2 chefs on your server and every once in a while meant that he never had to buy additives, your schematics that you're giving away are removing 50% of the potential sales from other BEs who sell additives.
So you have to draw the line somewhere, that one off for a friend could quite easily a regualr arrangement for him and anyone else who catches the word, in a 'just one more cant hurt' kind of way.
Generally speaking, making a schematic for a friend every once in a while isnt really going to harm the game as a whole.
but you have to think of it in percentages,
If there was only 2 chefs on your server and every once in a while meant that he never had to buy additives, your schematics that you're giving away are removing 50% of the potential sales from other BEs who sell additives.
So you have to draw the line somewhere, that one off for a friend could quite easily a regualr arrangement for him and anyone else who catches the word, in a 'just one more cant hurt' kind of way.
yanini
Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:15 pm
#8
I am firmly against schemadic selling, i think every proff should stick to what he/she can do and depend on others for the rest. if he/she cannot find a steady supply of what they need, they have the option of paying a different source or becoming there own supplier. but when u sell schemadics u are also shooting ur fellow BE's and urself in the foot. if u charge full price for a schemadic ur not. that is what i charge. and i dont sell too many of them. if u wanna make deals with the ppl u supply, in my opinion thats is fine, i provide my guild Chef with addetives, he provides me with 40% of sales and a crate here and there. it works out fine, and i have been doing good so far.
If u disagree, perfectly fine. the way i see it, i dont do it to benefit me fellow BE's and myself.
Yanini Avalixious
Master Bio-Engineer
Master Teras Kasi
Tranquility, Naboo Ahazi
mozter2112
Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:34 pm
#9
nancyJ, i hear what you are saying. that's exactly what i was thinking. i'm not thinking about what i am losing as much as i am thinking what that full run will do to the BEeconomy as a whole. the fact of the matter is, if i hadn't made the schematic for her she would have to buy all of those, and they wouldn't have been from me. i never have that many in stock ever. so other BE's lost out on business. i think i shant be doing that again.
yanini, i am also firmly against selling schematics.
random apostrophes rule.
Message Edited by mozter2112 on 09-30-2004 07:35 PM
Inkanissen
Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:13 am
#10
I will help my friends without caring about economy, I prefer not to involve credits. Sometimes I harvest things for a Chef and AS I know, and they give me all the food/drink/armour I need. Sadly the AS is overworked at the moment, but the Chef is always willing to make new stuff for me if I need it - and usually on a short notice.
Selling schematics to "strangers" is different. Come up with a fair price that both of you like and you can make many successful trades.
Selling schematics to "strangers" is different. Come up with a fair price that both of you like and you can make many successful trades.
guessit
Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:09 am
#12
"far as schematic trading goes, you have to weigh up the economic effect you will have by doing so.
Generally speaking, making a schematic for a friend every once in a while isnt really going to harm the game as a whole.
but you have to think of it in percentages,
If there was only 2 chefs on your server and every once in a while meant that he never had to buy additives, your schematics that you're giving away are removing 50% of the potential sales from other BEs who sell additives.
So you have to draw the line somewhere, that one off for a friend could quite easily a regualr arrangement for him and anyone else who catches the word, in a 'just one more cant hurt' kind of way. "
Generally speaking, making a schematic for a friend every once in a while isnt really going to harm the game as a whole.
but you have to think of it in percentages,
If there was only 2 chefs on your server and every once in a while meant that he never had to buy additives, your schematics that you're giving away are removing 50% of the potential sales from other BEs who sell additives.
So you have to draw the line somewhere, that one off for a friend could quite easily a regualr arrangement for him and anyone else who catches the word, in a 'just one more cant hurt' kind of way. "
After hearing you guys talk about how much fun it is to bend over your local chef ...I think ill just pick up 0404 bio engineer. 
evfields
Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:39 pm
#13
Personally, I see making schematics for chefs as pointless. We make a few hundred thousand maximum, and no BE's can make any more money by selling to that chef until he/she runs out of recources for that schematic.
I would only do it if that chef agreed only to sell schematics using my schematic to people, not actual food/drink.
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