Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Sampling DNA From Mutant Rancors....
Felg wrote:
Wow....I didnt think this would be such a task, but **edit**....Last night for 4 hours i tried to get DNA samples from these nasty creatures...Within all that time, i only got 6 samples...3 Very High, 2 High and 1 Above Average...Seems they have a huge detection range at about 60-70 meters away...I did find a way to sneak up on them, but it takes quite awhile to reach them....I would get about 60 meters away, and then go prone and crawl right up to them...Sometimes they would detect me, but not near as much as if i walked up to them....I was just curious if anyone else out there had tips on how to samples these creatures.....
The only thing I could suggest is to get Master Scout for the Scent Mask bonuses, or have a master Ranger apply the appropriate camoflage to you.
I've only sampled these twice, and it wasn't easy, but really didn't have that much trouble with 4th level box in exploration and +25 to mask scent.
One conclusion I've come to though is that it's probably not worth the effort. I was able to make a really nice CL 67 critter from bull rancor dna (12.5k HAM, 530 damage), experimenting it up as high as it would go. I may even be able to push it up a little higher than that, as I added a horned voritor dna sample (which is lower CL)into psych in hopes of getting its strong poison to stick (which it didn't, grrr). Anyhow, bull rancor dna seems to be pretty simple to get relative to mutant rancor.
I 100% concur with ArthurDentOnBria.
Personally I'm not all that impressed with their resists anyhow...
Vezek I am a Master Scout with +25 in Maskscent from cloths.
To date I have never been killed from sampling...
I Stay on my Bike...
IF they agro just ride off spamming Peace.
They do break Mask alot just hope off remask hop on.. Try again.
My main problem is they attack each other....
Last night I started a massive brawl...
Like 4 Spawns, 1 Enraged Rancors and 3 Mutants Rancors...
The fight lasted for over an Hour... They kept respawning and running off to fight... Only got 3 samples in like an Hour... When I left there was 20 Rancors still kickingbut.
Master Scout does make a real diffrence...
meh *shrug* I dunno. Between all the searching, all the death, the fights, and the combines that push you over CL 70 and make you try again, and the crit fails, it's not worth it to me. If I see a mutant I'll sample it, but I'll probably never spend tons of effort obsessing over them again.
The bull rancor pet I made had I think about 560 damage on the high end and I'm thinking I can probably get that higher if I try.
Linoric wrote:
I have made pets with 690damage from using Mutant DNA... They are well worth the effort....
Sample Frienzied or Ancient Grauls on dantooine
Easy to sample.
Easy to find.
Better stats.
pet will come out round CL50-59 ... i have yet to make one over 60 with the DNA and all VHQ.
Only thing you lose out on is the specials. They have Blinding strike and stunning strike, But throw a vexxed voritor or like a rancor youth in the aggresive slot and its cake.
I confess, sampling these demon spawns from hell is a little like the lyrics to tainted love:
Sometimes I feel I've got to
Run away I've got to
Get away
From the pain that you drive into the heart of me
The love we share
Seems to go nowhere
I've lost my lights
I toss and turn I can't sleep at night
And so on and so on. More running than lovin
ryandrew2022 wrote:
I went out to the Scarlac Pit on Dath the other day and ran across a group of MRs and got aggro as I drove by...got far enough to stop the attack and walked back...There were 6 there...I got to sample 5 MRs got six samples and finally got aggro'd but that was my first time with MRs and it was pretty successful, but once I created a DNA templete and put it in a creature I got a crit failure so it was all for not.
Breaks my **edit** heart! Sorry to hear that.
Linoric wrote:
Master Scout does make a real diffrence...
I was planning on going to the cave tonight.
Last night I found a spawning ground for Singing Mt Clan rancors. Ended up killing twelve of them, sixteen samples. It took about two hours. +5000 Singing Mt clan faction meant the tamers didn't attack me.. but the rancors did. They kept breaking through my maskscent. But I finally got the samples... just took a while.
"This is what I do: I bike up to the spawn, and wait for one to aggro. I lead it away. Interestingly, a lot of times I'll just hit peace and wait about 65m away...and by the time the ranc gets to me...it's just stops. 10-20m away, it drops aggro, turns around and starts walking back. I follow it, get about 4m behind it, jump off the bike, start sampling, hop back on my bike and keep within the 15m sample range. Repeat. "
Thats pretty much what I do...
Scouting the area where your mutant rancors are is critical... very often there might be some enranged rancors nearbye or just out of site. But I've noticed that enranged rancors will drop mask scent almost 100% of the time.
- Pahbi