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Thread: where are all the ch?

ospo
Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:20 pm
#1

Is it just me or are most of the master ch or even ch leaving the profession


I have come to this conclusion becuase i have not sold a ch pet in about 2 weeks


I can only sell nonch pets now.


Am I alone?


Ospo

Ahazi server
Terwo
Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:02 pm
#2

nope ur not alone i havent sold a CH pet since pub 7, all my sales have been non CH pets as well.

Gess it looks like the droids really did invade and whipe out all the CH.

The odd thing is pet stims and the like are still selling very well hmmmmmmmmmm i shall meditate on this




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Usagi44
Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:17 pm
#3

I've seen a recent influx of CHs on Wanderhome. Don't know how many for sure but last 5 days, it seems 50% of everyone I meet has CH skills. They aren't buying though...



Aberdeen Iok
Master Carbineer, Novice Creature Handler
Former BE - Wanderhome
Bonedome
Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:37 am
#4

Since they rearranged the creature handling points throughout the skill tree, there are far, far fewer CHs. Much less demand for our pets.


Combine that with the fact that our pets "decay" very slowly (in comparison with armor and guns, say) and you have a very low overall demand for our pets.


And unfortunately I don't make tissues, so I'll likely be dropping the prof.


-Lens Larque/Master Bio-Engineer/Eclipse


GFoyle
Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:24 am
#5

There do certainly seem to be far fewer CH's around.As a result anenourmous number of 'old' pets are in circulation - often given away. As a rsult I've pretty much given up trying to sell them and mainly produce them for my own use or giggles (hence the "Killer bunnies").


BTW Bonedome - nice to see I'm not the only Jack Vance fan around here.The gamewouldn't accept "Howard Alan Treesong" as a valid name , so I went with another favourite author!







Gully Foyle
All SOE game accounts cancelled - and this time I'm gone for good
Barr1cade
Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:54 am
#6

It's wierd, there doesn't seem to be any demand for them. I usually sell by speaking to novice CH's, asking what they have which is usually a level 20 bull bantha or similar. Showing them my equivilent level gurrcat and watch them spew expletives



- Barricade (Farstar)
Bio-engineer Vendor at Subliminal City, North coast of Naboo
MrHawat
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:04 am
#7

Gess it looks like the droids really did invade and whipe out all the CH.

It was not the droids. It was all the nerfs and unfixed bugs. The profession is now useless. The only way to make money is to grind missions with a combat skill. The "two new mounts" in patch 7 should have been under the BE additions and not the CH. They made them above CL 10 in the wild so only BE's can sell to non-ch. This plus never knowing if the BE pet you paid big bucks for is going to be useless after a hotfix and the new delays on calling is causing most MCH to quit. Those that stay are just getting good armor, buffed, and using their combat skills instead of their pets.


Tsam

MCH/MP
fantoq
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:19 am
#8

The CH class is still badly bugged and is really lost in purpose. As a result, a lot of CHs are leaving the profession or the game.


IMO, the bulk of the CHs today are either tamers or group players. The need for the uber tanks just isn't there as much. There does seem to be a new influx of dabblers that see the advantage of having a better pet than a lvl 10. But I'm thinking that market will be lvl 12 to 24 pets.


Add to that the fact that pets decay slowly and in today's game, CH is a credit poor class. And with the more crowded planets, vendors are a pain to find...





fantoq
MCH
former Medic
App. Carbineer
Society of Interplanetary Mercenaries[SIM]/ stargate/ naboo
MrHawat
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:33 am
#9

There does seem to be a new influx of dabblers that see the advantage of having a better pet than a lvl 10. But I'm thinking that market will be lvl 12 to 24 pets.


I think most of your dabblers are BE's themselves. They a picking up just enough CH skills to train their own pets the useful commands. The few remaining MCH's usually do not train BE pets because the aggravation, time is not worth the reward. It usually means stopping a mission and heading back to town for little of no pay. Why stop a 12k mission for 1k for training and teaching some one how to use a pet.
maddog0606
Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:25 am
#10






fantoq wrote:

Add to that the fact that pets decay slowly and in today's game, CH is a credit poor class. And with the more crowded planets, vendors are a pain to find...





Granted, pets do decay slowly or not at all if one is very careful what one fights and how the fight is performed. I don't feel I am a credit poor class. On a starter planet like Tat,I (a solo MCH/TKM) can make 10K a mission when grouped withmy pets. On the adventure planets it is more.


I aint rich, but I aint poor either. And vendors are a pain to find. Only a pain in the time it takes me to go to the store and search the vendor. Why SOE does not place a central datbank (database) in the cities to see what is actually at that store is beyond me. It puts my panties in a bunch when I go to a store to buy something only to find "No items listed".


I actually bought a BE pet a week ago. An unusual pet (at least for me) which is why I bought him. A BE CL60 (thought it was a 62, no biggy) Grasslands Slice Hound. I like dogs. I will buy more. But only if they are unusual looking (not everyone and their Mom has one) and they are better then what I can find on my own (which is usually the case). Heck, if you guys could mix body parts of critters together to make a cool looking petI would marry one of you. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy taming. I enjoy taming bloodthirsty killers. But to have a pet that looks part Merek (legs) and part Hadarack Rock Crusher (upper body)would be great.




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BristaAB
Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:41 am
#11

CH used to be Uber, the days when 2 grauls could tank anything and no one else could. If you were serious about soloing PvE it was simply a matter of what to take with CH and how much CH you needed


It was over-powered and badly needed fixing


There are a lot of factors that have decreased the number of people playing CH. Two of these are

- improvements to melee fighters (they can tank now)

- vehicles. Being the only person in the group who wants to walk is a pain


I think CH is balanced well with regard to power but has annoying features in a group - pets running away, the need to call them if the group uses vehicles. So they are imbalanced with regard to the fun factor



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Spazzers
Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:32 am
#12

The pet check in publish 7 scared a lot of them off. I've read a number of posts saying creature handlers won't buy BE animals because they are unreliable even at the CH level.


Wild animals were nerfed hard in light of "combat balance." Now the combat balancing has been put off until publish 11 at the earliest. Creature handlers feel cheated, as well they should.





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MrHawat
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:09 am
#13



CH used to be Uber, the days when 2 grauls could tank anything and no one else could. If you were serious about soloing PvE it was simply a matter of what to take with CH and how much CH you needed


It was over-powered and badly needed fixing


This has not been the case for months. Yet, the perception still exists. They were Uber after release but nerffed quickly. If this was the case, then you would still see alot of CH's using 2 BE pets that have higher stats than the grauls ever did. Instead the are quitting in droves. A MCH with two AR1 60% kinetic pets can not tank as effectively as an armored, buffed combat profession. The way it is now creatures are a liability. They need to be healed after each mission, they auto store when fighting, they do not keep up with speeders and have to be called for every lair. Ride to lair either make camp or call one pet, wait 15 seconds, call the other pet and wait another 15 seconds. After combat wait 60 to store or heal for 4-5 minutes. I am Master Pistoleer and with armor and buffs I can do the same or harder missions than I can if I use my MCH pets.
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