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Rivern

Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:10 pm

Well, I've decided to go ahead and pick up Bio-Eng, despite the horror stories that I've been hearing since release. Had a few quick questions regarding the class;

In the CH line, there is a tree called Creature Taming, which seems to eventually imbue pets with all the neat little commands. However, I don't see anything about taming in the BE tree. Does this mean I'm screwed if I don't pick up CH or does it mean I'll have to have my pets trained by CHs? I don't know, I am scared and confused by this.

Will the sale of items from my mastered Organic Chemistry be a viable form of income for me?

It doesn't appear there is the a transfer ability for BEs like there is in the CH line. Am I correct in assuming I can transfer pets anyhow?

I'd greatly appreciate any help.

-Riv

rion*combat medic, pistoleer
there's no defense like a good offense

Hoy_Sam_Yat

Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:34 pm

#2

A Bio-Engineer is to a Creature handler, what a Weaponsmith is to a Bountyhunter.

If you want to use the high lvl pets, you have to be CH, just like the weaponsmith has to be BH if he wants to use hin neat scatter gun.

Takae

Spazzers

Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:47 pm

#3

Bio-engineered pets appear in your inventory like a gun or a piece of clothing. You can transfer the pet from your inventory to a customer via the secure trade window. The customer has to take that pet to a creature handler for training.

You don't have to have creature handler skills to sell pets. It does help your business if you can train at least the low level animals however.

Buboopadoo
HOBO Embezzler
A Simple Resource Dealer

A Developer's answer to everything:
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VXXXJesterXXXV

Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:41 am

#4

Hi guys, I'm new to BE and had a question or 2.

1) What kind of crafting station do you use to run experiments on pets? (thought it would be food and chemical, but I didn't get the option.)

2) If it is in fact Food and Chem, do I have to have a certain lvl in cloning before I can experiment? (I'm currently novice)

I'm sure this is probably in a post already so I apologize for asking here, but I'm at work and internet time is kinda scarce, if ya know what I'm saying. I do appreciate all answers. Thanks a lot guys.

Jester Aeweok
Wanderhome
Shooting for
Master Swordsman
Master Pikeman
Master Brawler

yjkoo

Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:45 am

#5

yes youll need a food/chem station and a food/chem tool.

you should be able to experiment as novice (you get +10 experimentaion at novice)tho it prolly wont do much until you level a few boxes.

VXXXJesterXXXV

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:11 pm

#6

Thanks for the help. BTW sorry about the double post. HIt send and it didnt look like the message went through, so I sent again. Then I relized it sent both times.

Thanks again.

Jester Aeweok
Wanderhome
Shooting for
Master Swordsman
Master Pikeman
Master Brawler

Dinah

Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:55 am

#7

I've been experimenting with DNA for CL10 pets as a starting point and don't seem to be able to get a handle on how to predict CL, or how to reduce a CL with further generations. Any reference to explanations on how to guess/alter CL would be much appreciated. I've read a lot of posts and sites but the advice works some of the time but not all, and it's not obvious why. I'm starting to get hives from Voritor Dashers and haven't yet managed to make pets I'd be proud to sell. I was/will be a Master Creature Handler too and am impressed enough with what BE's can do now to want to make something really good.

On nutrients. Seems to me this is a really thorny issue but my experience so far has been that obtaining the resources (whether by harvesting or purchasing) is a considerable percentage of the timesink/cost of the product and any charges for schematics should reflect that. I've seen so many negative posts about this that Iwon't feel comfortable selling a schematic untilI understand all the costs involved, but it does seem that 100-500K is a hell of a lot for 5 minutes of your time, no?

I finally managed to make some decent broad spectrum nutrients (+85 is good, no?) but barely scratched +80 with resources I've been able to gather. Are any of the stats more important than others even tho the schematic says 33% each or do you pick based on the highest total of all 3?

Pet stims. Is there still a market for this? I don't have a vendor, but I made some good stims with resources friends supplied (+1064/37) and sometimes they sell on the bazaar, sometimes not. If there isn't a good market I won't put a lot of effort into this.

Any advice/comments much appreciated.

-- Col. Dinah Kell --

PACE Federation

Distaste

Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:17 am

#8

Most BE, may sell a schematic for 400k+. Most Chefs offer 10k-50k. Now it doesnt seem right that i give them a schematic that will give them 5 mill profit yet im getting 50k for.

Wokka

Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:20 am

#9

There seems to be a market for anything a BE makes (depending on your server also). What I found is that of all the markets the BE has to work with, it is very hard to try and specialize in all of them simultaneously.

My specialty is pets and stims. That keeps me busy enough. I'll make tissues for friends only. I get constant tells from chefs and tailors who want them, but I'm just not in that business.

The deal I make for my friends and guildies is this: I'll tell you what you need, you bring it to me and I'll make a schematic and you can run it in your factory. So right now, I have one tailor and 2 chefs that I provide for at no cost. I also get any clothing item or food/drink that I ask for, and in any quantity I want. I don't often ask for anything but I know its there if I need it.

I have to say though, if I spent the time and money to make tissues, I'd make a killing on cash but its no fun, and fun is what I took BE for in the first place.

Wokka-wokka

Marcalus

Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:24 am

#10

Wokka wrote:

There seems to be a market for anything a BE makes (depending on your server also). What I found is that of all the markets the BE has to work with, it is very hard to try and specialize in all of them simultaneously.

My specialty is pets and stims. That keeps me busy enough. I'll make tissues for friends only. I get constant tells from chefs and tailors who want them, but I'm just not in that business.

The deal I make for my friends and guildies is this: I'll tell you what you need, you bring it to me and I'll make a schematic and you can run it in your factory. So right now, I have one tailor and 2 chefs that I provide for at no cost. I also get any clothing item or food/drink that I ask for, and in any quantity I want. I don't often ask for anything but I know its there if I need it.

I have to say though, if I spent the time and money to make tissues, I'd make a killing on cash but its no fun, and fun is what I took BE for in the first place.

Wokka-wokka

I'll probably do similar stuff as I move up the tree. I have no desire to be running factories or collecting huge piles of meat and other resources.

If my chef friends keep me in brandy, they are welcome to my schems at no charge.

Marc
Gribble the Wookiee on Intrepid
Creature Handler/Bio Engineer/Brawler/Shipwright
Citizen of Pompeii, in the stinging winds of Lok
Entered the village on September 28th, 2004...the adventure continues....

Wokka

Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:30 am

#11

Marcalus wrote:

Wokka wrote:

There seems to be a market for anything a BE makes (depending on your server also). What I found is that of all the markets the BE has to work with, it is very hard to try and specialize in all of them simultaneously.

My specialty is pets and stims. That keeps me busy enough. I'll make tissues for friends only. I get constant tells from chefs and tailors who want them, but I'm just not in that business.

The deal I make for my friends and guildies is this: I'll tell you what you need, you bring it to me and I'll make a schematic and you can run it in your factory. So right now, I have one tailor and 2 chefs that I provide for at no cost. I also get any clothing item or food/drink that I ask for, and in any quantity I want. I don't often ask for anything but I know its there if I need it.

I have to say though, if I spent the time and money to make tissues, I'd make a killing on cash but its no fun, and fun is what I took BE for in the first place.

Wokka-wokka

I'll probably do similar stuff as I move up the tree. I have no desire to be running factories or collecting huge piles of meat and other resources.

If my chef friends keep me in brandy, they are welcome to my schems at no charge.

Exactly my thought too. Not only that but when I hear people talk about my chef's great Brandy, I always get mentioned as the one that made it possible.

I also get Pyollian Cake, Jawa Beer, Canape, Accarragm. These are all things that make my DNA sampling and pet making much easier to do.

The symbiotic relationship between a chef and his BE is quite wonderful.

Wokka-wokka

ArthurDentOnBria

Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:10 am

#12

Dinah,

A chef will always want you to price a schematic based on "effort" and will want you to price your products based on "cost" (i.e. how much did the materials cost you) but when they price their own products they price they do neither, they consider only what value they have to a potential customer. How else would they arrive at a crate of brandy costing several times what a crate of bespin port would cost for example.

So I suggest you keep that in mind when pricing your own products. Whether they be schematics or the additives themselves. And also, when considering selling a schematic, just remember that you are taking a sale away from somebody who has product just sitting on their vendor somewhere. Would you want others doing that to you?

ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%

Dinah

Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:12 am

#13

>you are taking a sale away from somebody who has product just sitting on their vendor somewhere

Or I could lose a sale because somebody else is selling cheaper than me, or selling a slightly better product, or has better resources--or a better location. An economy prices items based on supply and demand without personalities or feelings getting involved. I see no need to get upset because someone sells a schematic; if I can't sell nutrients, I'll do something else for cash.

Why does the theoretical person with the product on a vendor have more right to make a sale than the theoretical be selling the schematic? A sale's a sale. From what I've read it's ok to sell schematics if you charge enough, though "enough" varies from person to person.

I don't think everyone will ever agree on what's right--which is as it should be or we'd all be clones, so I'll drop the subject here.

-- Col. Dinah Kell --

PACE Federation

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