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Thread: Whats highest lvl creature we can sample?

Neclonmite
Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:29 am
#1

I read we cant do the crafted kimos anymore. Someone said there's a lvl cap now? What's the highest level we can sample? Has anyone found any 50+ - 60ish lvl critters to try/got dna from?



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Ordlander
Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:21 am
#2

I beleave 70 is now the top end or maybe it 65.
Tal-N
Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:55 am
#3

At a push you can sample from CL75 critters, sampling from CL60 Arachne Queens on Endor is actually very very reliable at master so the cap is significantly higher but has a rapid drop off.



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Neclonmite
Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:22 pm
#4

Cool Arachne queens? That the top anyone can report for reliable sampling? Are they aggro? I want to make the best of the best pets, so if homemade rancors isnt the best, I'm going to do what it takes to go get the best.


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smoothhawk21
Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:49 pm
#5

I sample horned, vexed, and slinking voritors on dantooine i believe they are 70-75 CL those are the best DNA i have ever gotten. and i get 780 or so xp per sample....not that i need it tho.

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Neffertech
Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:15 am
#6

I've regularly been able to sample Mutant and enraged rancors without difficulty.Though I don't know theirCL.





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Kova
Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:20 am
#7

horned and vexed voritor are cl 50, slinking voritor hunters cl 55 and mutant rancors 70

Neclonmite
Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:04 pm
#8

Mutant rancors seems like the best bet then. Got the same vibe from the ranger board.



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Tal-N
Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:15 pm
#9

I've been out recently getting alot of samples for a string of Rancor orders I decided to accept. On the whole I can sample from CL70 mutant Rancor with near on 100% success rate plus minimal aggro. Things get a bit sticking when i sample from Enraged Rancor that are CL75 where the success rate drops to what I'd guess is around 50/50 or perhaps even 1/3 of the time. It's certainly a significant difference from the Mutants I can tell you that. I did also try sampling from the enraged bull rancor but had 100% chance of failure and they#re CL85. There is the possibility to get samples from CL80 critters but I don't know of any which exist.





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MasterRondo
Thu Nov 27, 2003 2:44 am
#10

With the pending CL balancing coming in for all creatures, I wonder if this will affect what we can/cannot sample.


Also, I wonder if DNA samples now will be worth anything come the publish.




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Wire3k
Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:19 am
#11

Well, just read over the patch notes - and if I read them correctly - I'm probably out of the highend pet business.


I don't LIKE to adventure - I'm perfectly happy puttering around the newbie fields making affordable pets (face it - the stats weren't THAT much different). I guess I could go out with a group of adventurers but ya know - 'hunting' with a bio engineer is DULL. It's not dull for ME, but playing bodyguard, well - I don't know how many fighter types will find that thrilling.


One things for sure - my pet prices are gonna have to go up - a LOT.




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Ordlander
Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:28 am
#12

I would expect lots of differeances with the patch and cloning. Least I hoping so.
Tal-N
Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:24 am
#13

I'd say what we're going to be seeing now is alot of the less-serious bio-engineers either leaving the profession or focussing on just making petstims and such. This new system does indeed favour the people who like to go out and put their neck on the line sampling from wild animals which is frankly why I enjoyed making clones so much until I got sick of the end results being useless.


In the end though this does indeed mean that a BE/Ranger or BE/Scout combo has significant advantages, I've been expecting this ever since I heard about this system and built up my character based around many assumptions which again have proven to be correct. It will be sad to see people i know leave the profession cause the nature of it has become more focused towards the scouting routes, but in the end I often wonder if those people who say they don't like doing that might not have given the proper method of sampling a chance and simply grown lazy from sampling their own clones. It's very possible since one is infinently easier than another.


Will cloning prices rise? Maybe for the more powerful ones but since the CL of the DNA dicates the CL of the clone then anything up to CL30 is actually going to be very easy to make since the range of CL30 critters which are non-aggro is extensive. Getting certain special moves though such as disease is going to be tough for folks without maskscent though so I'm personally prediciting pricing systems based around what stats and abilities go into a clone rather than one based on their HAM or solely on the material costs. Its sure going to lead to some interesting discussions on clone pricing I know that much.





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