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I was wondering about the resource stats. It seems that once you obtain one of any resources, that resources stats (conductivity, overall, etc.) are set in stone. So my question is are there the same resources on different planets that have different values, or do different planets have different resources all together. Furthermore, is there any way to harvest the same mineral, etc. from the same planet, yet with different characteristics? I haven't tried this out by sampling 1 of some resource, jotting down the stats, using that resource, and then travelling somewhere else and doing the same (since you won't have any left to put in that "locked-stat" container

Anyone have any thoughts? On Corellia, at least, the metals', etc. stats aren't very high. Unless, of course, i need to use up all of my resources and then resample from scratch as i gain XP in surveying.

Man, this is confusing, but i would think that there would be some way to increase the stats of resources based upon you skill. It seems like so much thought has gone into the crafting system, that the dev's would have accounted for this.

Anyone?

I haven't really explored this much, I do know that different cities on the same planet if they share the same resource will have the same stats. I think that resouces that are named the same have pre set stats, but not 100% sure. I haven't been off planet yet in the retail game, I can't remember if I ever saw the same resource being on multiple planets in beta or not.

It's completely random... you'll notice that the materials available on Bloodfin Corellia are not the same as those on Starstrider Corellia.

Each galaxy got a totally random spattering of materials... I'm not sure how random, but from what I can tell, the names are totally random, as are their qualities (they have some guidelines... copper is generally very conductive, iron is usually very tough, etc... but they vary widely within their range, some copper is alot more conductive than others). The percentages and locations, as well, are random.

Some things are pretty standard... for flora, most planets have 1 of each basic type (I've noticed some planets have more conifers and no deciduous, etc), but most flora is distinct to it's planet (nabooian conifer only on naboo, correlian conifer only on corellia, etc).

For minerals, there is a lot of overlap, but each planet is unique... Like, Omok Copper might exist on Naboo, Tatooine, and Corellia (with the same stats on all of them), but Durivanis Copper only exists on naboo, and Hiyaooi Copper only exists on Tatooine and Corellia.

Also, resources can be mined out. Or could... if they stop showing up as a resource int he list on your survey device, they are no longer on the planet... theoretically, some new material may be found as well... I got a report yesterday of someone who mined steel in one spot on Corellia at an 80% spot... there is no longer steel in that spot. In beta, that would have meant that steel was gone from the planet, but she says that her survey device still showed the metal, so it looks like individual concentrations MAY actually deplete now seperately from other concentrations on the planet. Which is a good thing.

For minerals, there is a lot of overlap,



And when I said minerals there, I meant inorganics... which covers minerals (metal, ore, gemstones, etc), gas, chemicals, water, and energy sources... I'm not sure WHY each planet has its own specific type of wind and solar energy, seems like if you convert these into energy it is the same, but... *shrug*

Well, i gues part of my plight here, is that i seem to be surveying for the same things. I'm almost to Survey IV, yet i'm still looking for the same materials. Sure, my range and extraction is better, but i can't seem to find any new materials - i still only have two steels, two aluminums, two coppers. What's more, i can't seem to improve the qualities of these metals (for examples) because i keep extracting into the same containers for the same resource type. If i empty my container, will i get new resource qualities?

Any ideas?

I answered that, but I'll say it again. What is on your planet is what you have... the name is the important part... if you mine Omok copper, ANYWHERE (in that galaxy... different SWG galaxies have different materials and qualities), it will have exactly the same stats... a resource container really isn't a resource container, it is a stack of that resource (from a purely gameplay standpoint). Any resource with the same name will be EXACTLY the same, and will stack. It will never change, and that mineral, from the ground, will never change...

You MIGHT have a new type of mineral appear on a planet at some point, if you see a new name on the survey tool, that is what happened. Everything a survey tool lists are ALL the materials (of that type... mineral survey tool only shows minerals, etc) that are available on the planet... maybe not right where you stand, but SOMEWHERE on the planet. Other planets will differ, but if you find Omok copper on Corellia, and Omok copper on Yavin 4, they will be EXACTLY the same, and stack.

And I'll further add... the only thing that higher survey skill gets you is longer range on your survey tools, higher yields when you sample, and the ability to sample from lower concentration spots.

It does not in any way affect WHAT you can sample or the quality of what you sample. Anyone with a survey tool and at least 1 point of survey skill (gotten from taking novice artisan), standing in one spot, will see EXACTLY the same things in their survey tool (same materials available, and same concentration at that spot) regardless of how much survey skill they have.

Well that's just my point (although you didn't know it). I just checked, and i only have two copper types available - Arahris (Mythra) and Amoreris (Desh). You mentioned another type that you said was mineable throughout the entire galaxy.

So i'm wondering why i wouldn't have other minerals (metals for instance) available to me as i advance as a artisan.

Furthermore, i should be able to get better stats on minerals (metals specifically) as i ladder up, no?

I guess i'm just confused...

*sigh* ok... you MIGHT be saying you wish this was the way it WAS, as a needed change, in which case ignore this.

Otherwise: I'll try to say it even MORE clearly. Everything I said above were examples, because it is random in every galaxy (and on every planet).

If you only have 2 coppers available, that's all there are. On the planet you are on at least. That's the ONLY COPPER you will find on that planet right then, no matter where you go on the planet, no matter how skilled or unskilled you are in surveying. If you mine Arahris, from anywhere (on that planet, or if you HAPPEN to find it on another planet, not saying it WILL be on any other planets), it will have exactly the same stats... anyone who mines Arahris anywhere in that galaxy, it will have the same stats. If you mine Amoreris, it will have different stats than Arahris. But it will have the same exact stats as any other Amoreris ever found anywhere, by you or anyone else.

You don't have other copper available to you, because it just doesn't work that way in SWG (right now at least). And you are not an alchemist. Just because you get better at surveying, that isn't going to make the planet suddenly spawn diamonds. I can see how you might think that gaining experience in surveying should maybe give you access to better metals, but it doesn't, that isn't the way it is coded.

And you don't get better stats for being more skilled, as I said above... again, you just don't... that's not the way it works here. If you are giving a suggestion, great (though that particular one probably wouldn't work, maybe having higher-quality materials only available at higher survey levels might be a good one)... but if you are asking why you can't get it to work that way, well, that's just because... you can't.

JM, I have searched and searched and finally found this answer ....

Everything a survey tool lists are ALL the materials (of that type... mineral survey tool only shows minerals, etc) that are available on the planet... maybe not right where you stand, but SOMEWHERE on the planet.

However, the post was old, like July 2003, is this still the case? Basially, if I open my survey tool and I see a list of resources, can I be certain that this is ALL I will find on this planet, no matter where on the planet I survey? Or, if I move around, survey in other areas, is it possible to find other resources that were not previously on the list of resources?

Thanks in advance!

Scout, your post has nothing to do with what I asked

Can someone answer my question two posts above?

Nicosar,

Yes, it's still the case. If you open your survey tool, you'll see everything of thattool's type that's available on that planet. It saves you running around the planet.

What will save you running around the galaxy is to go to www.swgcraft.com and looking at thier database of current resources for your galaxy. Players keep it pretty up to date.

Iygow