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if you are actually trying to store something wouldn't it be better to label it something boring like "extra crafting tools" with some rare loot in it and price it at 9999999asopposedto labeling something like "flawless krayt pearls" and have tools in it?

if you put some tools in the backpack along with the rare loot...is that really fraud? there is after all at least one tool as labeled

The issue with this isn't the fact that you've put something nearly worthless on your vendor for millions.

The issue is the name.

If you label it "4 premium pearls" and put it up for 10 mil and someone finds out it's 4 crafting tools, then that is fraud, and despite the warning, CSRs may take action.

However, if you label it "Customer A's Pearls" then put it up for 10 mil, it's not fraud.

However, some sneaky bastage might try to ninja-buy it, and get a very rude shock. This is where the warning box comes in.

It's all about the name. If you put a name which is advertising, such as "Uber krayt guns" or something, then it can be construed as a legitimate sale, thus coming under fraud.

I would go so far as to remove the word "pearls" from the name as well.
"Customer A's Order" is sufficient and leaves NO grey area between decoy and fraud.
CSR's do not acknowledge "custom orders" since any item on any vendor may be legally bought by any player who is willing to pay the price for it.

In fact, naming a container with something that is not inside it can be considered griefing since you did it with the intention of deceiving another player.

Bottom line:
If what you say is in the bag isn't in the bag, you're leaving yourself wide open for disciplinary action.

I used to have a backpack on my vendor named "Customer A's Order", but with the customer's name in it. It was just a few chance cubes, but priced at 5 mil. It was an actual order though - not a fraud. One of the weaponsmiths on my server was sick of people buying other customers' orders, so he asked that merchants on my server fill this order for him. He wanted 5-10 chance cubes in a backpack, and since he valued our time, he was willing to pay 2-10 million for them. But he wouldn't be able to pick them up for a long time, so he asked that we keep them on our vendors for several months .

So I did - I placed a pack of chance cubes on my vendor, clearly labelled that it was for him. That was about a year ago or so, but now the pack isn't there. I'm pretty sure the intended customer didn't buy it. Guess I'll have to look back through my emails to find out what fool bought his order and ended up with 5 mil worth of chance cubes .

Interesting replies!

I just price all my storage bags at max price...not much in game is worth that much

label --"Full Suit of Mando Armor"- price "999999999"creds

hmmmmmm That might be worth it.

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LordRetep wrote:

If you put 5 krayt pearls in the backpack. name it "5 krayt pearls" and price it at say 5 mill. The customer/retard buys em only to discover that they are already tuned... not nice but you where just storing them for future decoration purposes and ppl pay a bunch for all other kinds of decorations
I know not very nice but thats life.

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I'm betting that would be fraud too. I doubt the CSR's are so legalistic that they would see you met the letter of the rule, and ignore that you were still trying to defraud people. This isn't the legal system - this is a game where the CSR's are allowed to use their common sense. If I were them, and someone pulled that sort of scam, I'd certainly take action. And if I were a CSR, I'd probably be angry and irritable most of the time (more than now anyway). So the action I took probably wouldn't be pretty. I'd say a good rule of thumb is to run your business in such a way that the innocent shopper isn't going to get scammed. Also, the more work you create for a CSR, the more likely you are to get stomped on...