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Thread: BARC speeder

Clarf
Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 pm
#40



Ok the AV21 was a nice touch for Master Artisans, but please devs, we want some new vehicles to craft



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NewTexican
Wed May 11, 2005 1:37 am
#41

ok, so this new vehicle that was promised to us,is only going to be available to frickin newb players that bought a 3pack of this game? it is so stupid that newb players will be able to get something that is meant more for veterans or at the very least ppl that pre-ordered the expansion regardless of time spent on this game. since its not clear to blame who, the devs or the farts at Lucas Arts, i'm just glad in their infinite knowledge that they once again took more content out of this game. at least they should have made this speeder available to everyone based on quests(no limit) or made it a schematic that is craftable by master artisans. never seems to end on the endless downward spiral this game is going.
Dpjarrett
Wed May 11, 2005 2:39 am
#42

Oh no! According to SOE the speeder will be available to everyone. Granted, the people who buy the boxed set will be the only people who get one automatically added to their inventory, but the BARC speeder will be tradable so you can pay millions and millions of credits in-game to get one.


I bet whatever ad exec came up with that line got a promotion. "Take out that bit about having to buy the boxed set to get it!Say instead that it will be available to everyone! It's not lying because anyone can get one through thegame economy!"


Personally, I think they should have just given everyone who preordered ROTW the option to choose between the Varactyl and the BARC, but that's just me.



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Dpjarrett
Wed May 11, 2005 2:42 pm
#43

Not a bad idea, but I think they're too worried about how many people that would tick off. Many people only preorder things like JTL and ROTW because of the "unique" item that comes with it. If SOE startsmaking those items as common place as a swoop they might have trouble getting people to preorder in the future. As it is they're catching alot of flak from people who preordered theROTW digital download to get the varactyl; it turns out that people who buy it today still get the varactyl.



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Kesslan
Wed May 11, 2005 8:19 pm
#44

not to mention RoTW was only available AS a digitital download standalone. You cant buy RoTW on it's own except via the digital download. God knws i'm not buying all 3 expansion packs again just to get the BARC speeder. Frankly anyone who pre-ordered it period should get it at least.



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ImpDoc_001
Sat May 14, 2005 5:54 am
#45

For me it's simple economics. I can pay $29.95USD for the box set, make a new character, transfer the BARC to my main, cancel subscription of new account. Or, I can save millions and millions of credits and buy one. I choose Option 1, and I already have the money set aside.



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Dpjarrett
Sat May 14, 2005 1:23 pm
#46






Mott_Kruger wrote:





Last night I saw a listing for one of the resourses (100 units of the Carbonaceous Asteroid) on the bizarre going for 20,000cr.

If a Master Artisan, who did not have ROTW bought these resourses at this price and made one BARC repair kit, it would cost them 300,000cr just for the resources alone. (100 units @ 20000cr... 20,000 / 100 = 200cpu... 1500 units are required... 200 x 1500 = 300,000)



300k for a repair kit





Keep in mind a few things though:


First, space mining is still very new and not many people have the mining ship yet so there's no competition for space resources.


Second, 99% of people who sell stuff on the bazaar have no clue what they're selling or how much it's worth; they're just going through their inventory, clicking on anything they don't want, and pricing it at the max (which just happens to be 20k). I think the person selling that pitiful lump of resources for 20k was probably guilty of this.


However, I agree that these BARC repair kits are never going to be inexpensive to make. I haven't tried space mining yet, but from what I've been told gathering a good pile of resources is about the most mind-numbing experience in the game to date. A friend of mine compared it to grinding out weaponsmith before he knew how to write a crafting macro.



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Mott_Kruger
Sun May 15, 2005 12:06 am
#47







Dpjarrett wrote:

Not a bad idea, but I think they're too worried about how many people that would tick off.



Like ticking off the players who bought JTL? Then SOE givesJTL to everyone who buys ROTW?
(Which is the resaon that I will not buy ROTW)

Message Edited by Mott_Kruger on 05-14-2005 02:08 PM



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Mott_Kruger
Sun May 15, 2005 12:16 am
#48








nefarious wrote:


A Master Artisan can craft a repair tool for when it gets destroyed,


I was looking for info on what it takes to make them, but my guess is that it will be much like a new speeder.





The repair tool requires the following to craft:


General Crafting tool (under Misc) or a Weapon, Droid, General Item Crafting tool.
750 units of Carbonaceous Asteroid
750 units of Petrochemical ASteroid.


Last night I saw a listing for one of the resourses (100 units of the Carbonaceous Asteroid) on the bizarre going for 20,000cr.

If a Master Artisan, who did not have ROTW bought these resourses at this price and made one BARC repair kit, it would cost them 300,000cr just for the resources alone. (100 units @ 20000cr... 20,000 / 100 = 200cpu... 1500 units are required... 200 x 1500 = 300,000)



300k for a repair kit

Message Edited by Mott_Kruger on 05-14-2005 02:31 PM



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Aeneus
Tue May 17, 2005 10:18 am
#49






Dpjarrett wrote:






Mott_Kruger wrote:





Last night I saw a listing for one of the resourses (100 units of the Carbonaceous Asteroid) on the bizarre going for 20,000cr.

If a Master Artisan, who did not have ROTW bought these resourses at this price and made one BARC repair kit, it would cost them 300,000cr just for the resources alone. (100 units @ 20000cr... 20,000 / 100 = 200cpu... 1500 units are required... 200 x 1500 = 300,000)



300k for a repair kit





Keep in mind a few things though:


First, space mining is still very new and not many people have the mining ship yet so there's no competition for space resources.


I'd suggest not using the mining ship... talk about a gimped ship, the arc and placement of turrents is counter-productive. So expect most miners to probably use fighters


Second, 99% of people who sell stuff on the bazaar have no clue what they're selling or how much it's worth; they're just going through their inventory, clicking on anything they don't want, and pricing it at the max (which just happens to be 20k). I think the person selling that pitiful lump of resources for 20k was probably guilty of this.


I suspect you are right... server prices havent been established yet


However, I agree that these BARC repair kits are never going to be inexpensive to make. I haven't tried space mining yet, but from what I've been told gathering a good pile of resources is about the most mind-numbing experience in the game to date. A friend of mine compared it to grinding out weaponsmith before he knew how to write a crafting macro.


Ohh yeah... mind-numbing and time consuming... plus the pesky ships that keep attacking-- lag... 10cr a unit increase due to the lag the devs placed in space lol








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nbarroga
Thu May 26, 2005 9:57 pm
#50

diddneone here about the barc speeder available if you buy the Galaxies 3 pack??? What about all the people who have already bought these games, what do we get? I'd like a barc speeder for buyin all 3 games too.
JoleneArcher
Fri May 27, 2005 12:47 pm
#51

Theres only one box (Total Experience) and no single RotW version. So you will get the speeder if you buy this. Practically you just pay for Rotw and get SWG and JtL and a speeder for free.



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nbarroga
Tue May 31, 2005 2:34 am
#52

Thats rediculous cause i already pre-ordered ROTW so i should get it too.

What do we get a slow Varactyl.
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