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Thread: droid crafting stations

Drashk
Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:56 pm
#14






Ackis wrote:

Read TH's post, stickied at the top. (Question 4)
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4.) What does mechanism rating mean for crafting stations, and is there a correlation with the rating on architect made crafting stations? If so, could you give us a hint on how it correlates?


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In short, this gives you a better chance to resist critical failures. It works like Quality Modifiers on Crafting tools.



My take on this has always been that TH was refering to the mechanism rating playing a role in the crafting process in a droid nd not that the Mechanism rating was related to the Function Rating provided by a Private crafting station. TH has admited that he is not a crafter and has a few times made mistakes answering questions regarding to crafting. If he was refering to the Mechanism Rating and its ability to reduce the crit fail rate while building a droid, I think I have helped to prove that that is in correct. Check the sig for that info.
TH piped in and forwarded that info to the DEV team, after I posted on the Bug thread in TC using the above quote in example.That kind of adds credibility to my theroy of what he was refering to.





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BlueMorgoth
Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:55 pm
#15

Best I've gotten is +14 for the F&C stations with our 1000CD copper on bria and 944 OQ gas. I have some 986 OQ gas and going to see if that makes any difference, I suspect not. All my stations are +13 or +14 depending on whether they need Aluminium or not.



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Ackis
Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:07 pm
#16

+12 seems to be the best you can get on WH.



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Malitevv
Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:38 pm
#17

What are you guys referring to when you say +N? Are you talking about the experimental percentage? That's the only number I see when I create the crafting modules.


If so, I crafted about 200 "weapon, droid, and generic item" crafting station modules when grinding my way to Blueprints III. I used quality resources, experimented on them all and saved every single one that had a percentage greater than 24%. I created about 5 of them that were 38% and about 20 or so that were 30% or 32%. None of them ever had an odd number for the percentage. But I can't tell if that has any affect on the actual crafting station when you build it into the droid or not. It doesn't seem to have any affect, but it's really difficult to say without extensive testing and I don't have the time or patience for that.




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Drashk
Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:43 pm
#18

The + being refered to is the Mechanism Rating of all droid components.





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duncje
Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:53 pm
#19






Ackis wrote:

Read TH's post, stickied at the top. (Question 4)



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4.) What does mechanism rating mean for crafting stations, and is there a correlation with the rating on architect made crafting stations? If so, could you give us a hint on how it correlates?


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In short, this gives you a better chance to resist critical failures. It works like Quality Modifiers on Crafting tools.





Ackis, this is also the same person who liked the "clear domed r2's". I think TH was mistaken here.



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Ackis
Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:03 pm
#20






duncje wrote:


Ackis, this is also the same person who liked the "clear domed r2's". I think TH was mistaken here.




Valid point. However, also look at it this way. Arch crafting stations never had a rating. Then all of a sudden they did. The same could go for DE stations.



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Drashk
Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:09 pm
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Ackis wrote:


Valid point. However, also look at it this way. Arch crafting stations never had a rating. Then all of a sudden they did. The same could go for DE stations.




The Function Ratings on Architect stations were implemented shortly after release, if I remember correctly. You also have to remember what it takes to make a Private crafting station compared to a droid crafting station. I have a feeling that when the implement a droid FR, they won't be nearly as good as the are now and that the droid stations might get a bit of a re-vamping if they do get higher Function ratings.





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Ackis
Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:11 pm
#22






Drashk wrote:








Ackis wrote:


Valid point. However, also look at it this way. Arch crafting stations never had a rating. Then all of a sudden they did. The same could go for DE stations.





The Function Ratings on Architect stations were implemented shortly after release, if I remember correctly. You also have to remember what it takes to make a Private crafting station compared to a droid crafting station. I have a feeling that when the implement a droid FR, they won't be nearly as good as the are now and that the droid stations might get a bit of a re-vamping if they do get higher Function ratings.





But they'll have to do something with legacy stations. And it wasn't that soon after the game started up... a couple of months at least.



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CapnSteve
Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:06 pm
#23

The best I've gotten is a 0. Surprisingly I have a lot less experimentation failures with my droid than with my architect crafting stations.



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Drashk
Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:25 pm
#24






Ackis wrote:





Drashk wrote:

I have a feeling that when the implement a droid FR, they won't be nearly as good as the are now



But they'll have to do something with legacy stations. And it wasn't that soon after the game started up... a couple of months at least.




My guess is that we won't like what could happen to the legacy stations, meaning that the function rating would drop across the board. They could even become the same as public crafting stations, which might go to explain why that issue poped up a while back. Either way, if function ratings are added in and the droid stations are changed, the legacy crafting stations could wind up with ratings with a similar range of -15 to +15 that the private stations have, without high end resources and components. If that is the case, many people will dump their crafting droid for a private station or buy a new droid that has a better function rating. Just my thoughts on the matter though


I believe that the Function Rating was intorduced inmid August, or early Septemember at the latest.






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Javac
Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:49 am
#25

My best droid stations are 92% efficiency for most of em and 94% efficiency for the food/chems ... forget what the mech rating is.



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Ackis
Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:53 am
#26






Drashk wrote:





Ackis wrote:





Drashk wrote:

I have a feeling that when the implement a droid FR, they won't be nearly as good as the are now




But they'll have to do something with legacy stations. And it wasn't that soon after the game started up... a couple of months at least.




My guess is that we won't like what could happen to the legacy stations, meaning that the function rating would drop across the board. They could even become the same as public crafting stations, which might go to explain why that issue poped up a while back. Either way, if function ratings are added in and the droid stations are changed, the legacy crafting stations could wind up with ratings with a similar range of -15 to +15 that the private stations have, without high end resources and components. If that is the case, many people will dump their crafting droid for a private station or buy a new droid that has a better function rating. Just my thoughts on the matter though


I believe that the Function Rating was intorduced inmid August, or early Septemember at the latest.







Again all speculation unfortunantly.


Still, I would much rather give them a decent crafting station now, instead of have them come back after me at a later time. As well, you have people who have read what TH posted (and frankly this includes myself) and take it at face value without hard evidence to the contrary.




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