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Thread: Apprenticeship Experience?

ChloeAeryn
Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:16 am
#14

I would think, that since the Trainers cost so much, its much easier to find people to train. That's probably what the game creators thought of. Not everyone will have the money to go to the Trainers. I gained experience and then waited until I could find someone to teach me.


I think you should be allowed to gain some sort of experience for teaching languages. It shouldn't be a lot, but some. At this point, you don't gain any.



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Tsuruchi
Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:38 pm
#15

I always, ALWAYS drop what ever I am doing to teach ANYONE who asks. I was trying to be a one handed brawler and NO ONE wouold teach me. SO when it came time for the Appexp, it was good. But there is a little trick. Get someone to let you teach them ranged support 1(if you have it) over and over. It costs little and people usually have THOUSANDS of unused points.



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CheeseBurgerAnimal
Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:55 pm
#16






Teterack wrote:

I yell all the time that "I can train Artisan skills for free 4|1|2|3" and nobody ever comes up and asks me to train them. I can never find anyone that is advertising what they need training in. I have gone to the many hot spots that people tell me to goto and they are usually filled with people shouting things but I of course still have no luck in getting someone to let me train them. Are you supposed to offer them money or something? Sounds kind of stupid having your teacher give you credits to train you.






A little advice if I may, I maxed out on AP's a while back:


1) If you feel the need to advertise training, offer to pay the student.


2) Make friends, Lots of friends


3) Go group hunting, even if you dont have a combat skill you might try healing or just making food for the group and pets.


4) When hunting in group, behave. Dont get greedy. Read up on the millions of posts and guides on hunting etiquette.


I have found that the more social i become in the game opens the opportunity to teach, in fact HELP other players. And thats what the apprenticeship points are all about.




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Pistol
Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:27 pm
#17

I recently became Master Artisan. It took me two days.


I had some already built up from teaching here and there. When I was ready, I paid up my housing and harvesting maintenace and headed to Theed on Naboo. I hung out at the starport and started shouting everything I could teach. I had a few people come up for training within about two hours. It took a while. I started offering money to teach but that didn't help a whole lot.


I ran into one newbie who didn't understand training at all. She had marksman experience but had never trained as a novice marksman. I took her to the trainer, had her learn novice marksman and then trained her in Pistols I and II. It helps to know more than just artisan. I could have trained faster if I had used all of my 250 points.


After the second day I was almost there. I ran into someone wanting to buy a vehicle. I told him I could do it if I gained enough Apprentice XP to become Master. He agreed and let me teach him some skills he didn't really want just so I could make Master. Afterwards I learned Master from someone else standing around and in 10 minutes I had sold my very first speeder (for half price cuz he helped me out). Sometimes people are holding off on training because they don't really want the skill. Try bartering with them to get them to let you train them.


xXOisinXx
Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:36 pm
#18

Most people just pay someone off who has extra xp for something to get taught. I pay people up to 5k to max out apprentice xp from teaching a person ranged support I. You kinda need credits though, so it is hard to train people when you have none of it.



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Oktip
Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:54 pm
#19

I have never understood why people complain that they cannot get App XP. When the politician patch was introduced, I had max App Xp and was still getting people asking me for training. I probably trained the equivilent of 3K App Xp before I got novice Poli. I dropped the skill, but got all my App Xp back in a matter of days.
The easiest way I hve found, as has been mentioned, is to just watch your spatial chat when you travel through a city. There is always someone in Coronet, Bestine, Theed, etc looking for training. When you see the request, jump on it immediately. If you are going to miss your shuttle due to training someone, 10 minutes is a small price to pay for getting the Xp and you may just get another trainee while you are waiting for the shuttle to come back.
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JasonK
Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:02 pm
#20






Oktip wrote:
I have never understood why people complain that they cannot get App XP.


Maybe some people don't hang out in cities around other people a lot?



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RobbPilot
Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:12 pm
#21

It's a fair system, but I got hurt now because I recently mastered fencer while my apprentice points were capped. Then I mastered artisan on my quest to be a master DE. Well, I went from capped to empty pretty fast, and I have to restock for DE. If there were no caps, I'd have been fine. All the free training I gave during the time I was pistol/CH that didn't net me any points... grrrr.
KnightHawk420
Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:06 pm
#22






viper4986 wrote:

OK it is a neat concept but there are many things about it i dont like.How do people who are slower at getting the skills the people you are teaching who do they teach? it will be really hard for them making it harder to becom master artisan or any proffression that branches off from artisan. As the game moves on and there is less and less new people who do we teach?







Easy. You exploit the game by teaching Ranged Support I over and over to someone who doesn't have ranged support, but happens to have a huge cache of combat xp and nothing to do with it.



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famousbarry
Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:10 pm
#23

whoa dude, you used the "E" word!
graendael
Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:24 am
#24

If you have some spare skill points and friend (Or second account) with spare xp and some time...


Get Novice Entertainer, Learn Image Design 1 and then have them get Novice Entertainer and Get ID experience and teach them, they drop it rinse repeat, slow boring but if you are desperate it will work, you could probably bribe people to it if you really need to.


Personally I would like to see some sort of quest system put in place.


When you are ready to become a master each trainer of that profession would send you off on a quest that involved making some items for him and teaching someone (an NPC) that would get you apprentice XP. If it was limited to once per trainer (Location not type) then it means people would have to travel and it would still take a reasonably signiciant time, but you are not dependant on someone wanting to learn what you can teach.





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