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Thread: The vehicle breakdown.

strykler
Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:33 pm
#14

I plan to sell my vehicles for 4.5cpu. I need to make some cash return on the investment of running harvestors. I don't think selling venicles for less then 3cpu is a good idea.. it undermines the economy.. and if you are selling at 1cpu like "whats his face" posted above, you're just plain nuts..



Zampino Oggler, Master Smuggler & Pistol Champion
- Any fool can piss on the Floor.. Be a Hero, Chit on the ceiling.. - You can too!
WillyWatanabi
Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:16 pm
#15

"So if you happen to be on ahize server sorry guys I am going to do my best to kill high pricing of vehicles"


First off, it's Ahazi. Second off, you're charity won't affect anything. I will still sell out of vehicles, and you will be broke.




--Willy Watanabi
Sergeant in the Praetorian Dark Forces
Master WS, 4-2-4-4 Merchant, 2-4-4-3 Brawler
Scortch
Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:34 pm
#16

I'll probably sell for 2CPU. Since my resources only cost about .5CPU for me to gather, I'll still make a small profit but, I'm not going to be making them to make a huge profit. I am going to be making them and selling them cheap to keep the gougers from ripping people off.
SkybaneInc
Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:00 pm
#17






Scortch wrote:
I'll probably sell for 2CPU. Since my resources only cost about .5CPU for me to gather, I'll still make a small profit but, I'm not going to be making them to make a huge profit. I am going to be making them and selling them cheap to keep the gougers from ripping people off.





Please explain why 5 - 8cpuis gouging and ripping people off? Do you have any clue how many resorces it takes to make a weapon and what the break down cpu is on them? So in your mind all weaponsmiths are thieves?


Not everyone has the luxery of mining their own resorces. Have you looked on vendors and the buzzar and seen what people sell RAW resorces for? Isn't the TIME it takes you to harvest the resorces and actually craft an item worth anything to you?It certainly is to the customer as I don't hear them complaining.


I'm not saying you can't make a profit at 2cpu.. you can esp if you mine your own. But you as an individual will not effect the economy selling this low. You only hurt yourself.




Skybane--Master Swordsman
Country Store Located on Naboo - South of Theed at (-5386 3338)
Selling Powerups, Tat Sunburns, Food, Droids,Vehicals
Mastered: Architect, Marksman, Droid Engineer, Artisain, Swordsman
Vaulnuu
Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:39 am
#18

Hi everybody


This is my solution to the problem ,,take it with a grain of salt,, below is what i posted in sunrunner forums and will,, We decided to offer the folks a guarantee that if they brought us the material they would leave with a vehicle,,we are using our droid crafting material as a back up for criticle failers.


I know the requirenments may change and all of that info is kept updated in the rest of the thread that this came from in sunrunner.


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I Wrote:


Recently Best Buy Droids sent a rep to TC to confirm that resorce requirements have indeed been multiplied by 10. It was comfirmed.


What does this mean to you?


,,,,,,,,,,It means that opening day of vehicles is going to be worse than the entire first week of mounts!


How to plan to get your vehicle through us or our friends on the first day.


,,,,,,,Bring us the material requierd and we will biuld the vehicle with your material for 20k or if we use our material we will have to charge 100k,,the reason is this,,by vehicle publish day me and my partner Gwildor will have approximantly enough material to make about 50 to 60 vehicals(600 to 700k resorces)That includes all our rare resorces we use for droids.


This was an unexpected change to us and we apologize to any who will be having to bust there butt to gather what they will need by the 11th of december.


The following is the requirements and capabilitiesfor each type of Vehicle as posted by Artisan correspondant,Vaedross:


Pleaase Note the Resorces High Lighted in Red



The last OFFICIAL TEST CENTER schematics (and some info):

X34 Landspeeder
Ferrous Metal: 12,000
Non-Ferrous Metal: 4500
Durability: 100% Shock Resistence

Slowest vehicle (about 14 mps?)
BEST offroad vehicle (feels like +100 terrain negotiation)
4500 General Crafting Exp (too much? bug?)
This is the car that Luke, Obi-Wan, R2, and 3PO ride on Tatooine in Episode 4.


Swoop Bike
Ferrous Metal: 10,000
Non-Ferrous Metal: 2500
Durability: 100% Shock Resistence

Fastest vehicle (about 16 mps?)
Worst offroad vehicle
1600 General Crafting Exp
This is the bike Anikin rides on Tatooine in Episode 2.


Speeder Bike
Ferrous Metal: 10,000
Non-Ferrous Metal: 2500
Durability: 100% Shock Resistence

Mid-speed vechicle (about 15 mps?)
Fair offroad vehicle
1600 General Crafting Exp
This is the bike that Lea and Luke ride on Endor in Episode 6.


Way all the differances between the capabilitys, some vehicles will be all around better on some planets, some will be just what certain planets call for.


Our Vendor for Vehicles and Droids will be Listed on the planetary map under Vendor/Droids/Player Vehicles,,,,,,,,,,,I'm going to try to generate a vendor that wears a plad suit lol


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Keep in mind that a fella selling any completed item for 3 credits or less per unit will be sold out within a couple hours and will have no impact on economy at all,, the demand will be voracious,,they'll just get eaten first.

DirthNader
Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:52 am
#19






Scortch wrote:
I'll probably sell for 2CPU. Since my resources only cost about .5CPU for me to gather, I'll still make a small profit but, I'm not going to be making them to make a huge profit. I am going to be making them and selling them cheap to keep the gougers from ripping people off.




2cpu? The steel and copper I've been mining for speeders has good enough stats that I could easily sell it on the bazaar for 3-5cpu with no risk of a critical failure. 2cpu is idiotic.


I don't know what I'll be selling them for. Frankly, we've only got one patch day, and if someone want's to give me 500K for a speeder so that they can have one with no wait, I'm taking it. Economic communism was a failed experiement, you know?




The artist formerly known as Ittov
Scortch
Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:36 pm
#20

Vaulnuuthe resources required have been lowered so you will need to re-calc your prices.


2CPU is not idiotic. I am not in this to make money off vehicles. I think everyone, including newbies, should have a fair shot at one. I already have all the money I need. I'll still be making a profit. If I was concerned about making MORE moeny, I would jsut sell the resources. Obviously Iam not concerned about it.


I am more concerned with everyone getting a FAIR price and a good deal and players having a decent chance at getting one. Not all players are filthy rich. I'll probably hit the cantina first since the rentertainers have the hardest time getting any decent amount of credits.

strykler
Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:01 pm
#21

I'm so happy the resources where lowered.. but I still plan to sell my vehicles at 4.5cpu that makes out to 20K for X34 Landspeeder, 27K for Speeder Bike, & 36K for Swooper Bike. Those are very resionable rates for vehicles



Zampino Oggler, Master Smuggler & Pistol Champion
- Any fool can piss on the Floor.. Be a Hero, Chit on the ceiling.. - You can too!
Vaulnuu
Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:03 pm
#22

Scorch


Aye, Got the mssg this morning that requirements had been lowered onTC,, I undersgtand about resorce pricing and all that ,,but keep in mind that I run one of the most buisy Droid buisenes's on sunrunnar and have been sence late august when i made MDE,,my goal isnt so much to sell as many vehicles as possible but to conserve all my rares for droids I got plenty of money too but i dont want to be put out of the droid biz for a month while I wait for rare resorces to spawn again. because i used everything I had to make 50 to 60 vehicles(Requirements at time of original post)..


What I'm attemting to fill the gap for my customers that will come to me nomatter what,,they expect me to be there for them and I will. Guaging my customers is the last thing i want to do and I would'nt do it.


I didnt say charging 2 cr per unit was idiotic,,I just pointed out that people who do that wont be around long and further more wont be suppling anybody regularly for a month with resorces.


As to the resorce requirments change ,,omg ,,thats great news,,but I'll still be charging a set price in the range of 6.5/8.o to 1 depending on the vehicle.


Anyways good luck to you all on Race Day,,I just know ,despite all the good intentions it will be a mess.


Vaulnuu


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