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If people on eclipse would stop buying high end resources for 10cpu, you wouldn't have this problem.

With my high efficiency harvesters, I pay .28cpu for my resources. I have no sympathy for anyone paying 10cpu for resources. And, hey, an SR1 steel and an SR1000 steel cost me the same to harvest.....

If you buy your resources for those prices, you only encourage people to sell at those prices. What do you think would happen if crafters stopped buying these 10cpu resources? The price would come down. You only hurt yourself when you do it, so stop.

Ybagi,

Lomar4976 said it. His is the third post from the top.

If you are charging 100k for a swoop you are not making an honest buck. I am, since I am not gouging people.

You didn't say anything, so disputing what you saidis a moot point.

With all that said, most of the people whinning about the low prices are just pissed that they didn't get to gouge people like the CH's did. Too bad, but I said from the very beginning that I was selling vehicles for 4-5cpu in an effort to stop the insane price gouging and to make it unprofitable for people to grind to Master Artisan just to make a quick buck on vehicles.

For the most part, it seemed to have worked. Not only that, but I made many REPEAT customers today, the ones that will pay my maintenance fees when the flurry for vehicles calms down.

If you made 3 million on 10 vehicles sold, congrats on your windfall, but I'd hold on to it for when you need money to pay for your harvester maintenance and don't have time to run missions.....

I know that I sell my driods for at least 6-12cpu and from what I have read on the DE boards others sell around that amount and I have been doing it for months and no one **edit** to me about it.

My bad I missed Lomar's post

Your bad:

I said nothing?

How about the whole part about YOU ruining the artisan profession day to shine

Every profession gets their chance to make a decent buck except artisans?

I'm not talking about gouging and far from it I'm talking about you undercuting

Everyone has agreed that 6-7 cpu is a fair price except you

and you go from 3.5 in one post to 2cpu in another and now you think 4-5 is a good price

you also said that none of the artisan products have good markups; again I ask what about weapon powerups? maybe you can undercut this market too

All praise Grayseven's high moral fiber as the combat classes get richer and the artisans get poorer

good job Gray

Here's an interesting idea:

Imagine the Devs remove missions from the game altogether. All of a sudden, all the armor-wearers and gun-toters who are either complaining about the high prices for the New Thing, dropped skills to pick up MA so they could undercut us for a couple of weeks, or are CHs snickering that only they can get away with murder.. whew, that was a long preamble.. would have to sell stuff to US to make any money for themselves to buy our products. Then, they would understand the personal 'cost' in effort, what it means to go looking for customers, to advertise yourself, to compete with undercutters.

If the phantom cash dried up, THEN you all could complain about our costs per unit. Until then, please leave the business end of it to the business people. Thanks.

I made a big mistake on opening day, used up 300k of my best resource where i could have easily sold them for 12-20cpu on an auction. after experimenting on them and got 95% from it i made 20 of each. after teh factiory run was complete, ran to the nearest startport to try to sell them only to find otheres were selling them for 20k or even less.

i decided to hold on to them and put 4 of each on my vendor for a price i think is reasonable.

guess it was a lesson learn the hard way, why waste your best resource to put out the best product when you can get more just by selling the resource so a weapon smith or armorsmith.

the resource was a duraolly steel with 901 OQ and 951 ut and phrik alum with 900+ Oq 980 UT.

i was gonna sell the the vehicles for 40 60 80 but it didn't seem some people didn't care too much about the quailty of the product.

I never said 3.5cpu, I mentioned 2cpu as a price high enough above my cpu to harvest and still make a profit.

If others had my "high moral fiber" then we wouldn't have idiots who think its okay to price things so far out of reach of anyone but the power-gamers as to make this game uninviting.

I gave a newbie a swoop deed that I critfailed on experimentation on the first try, so it only had the minimum 1k hitpoints. He offered me everything he had for the cheapest vehicle because they looked cool. I only asked that he give my shops waypoint to anyone who asked where he got the vehicle from.

I told him that it was a crap vehicle, but he was really happy to be able to have any vehicle. I told him it was expensive to maintain and that it probably wouldn't last long, but he didn't care if it only lasted an hour.

So the last two days were great because I made 1 person happy, besides myself. This is my last post on this subject. You price-gouging jackasses can take your better-than-thou attitude and shove it where the lightsaber don't shine! If you want to make credits, then Master a real crafting profession. I'd love to be able to buy my Micro-sensor suites, power converters and other master artisan items in bulk from a Master Artisan, but no one sells them. So if you can't be bothered to make those items, don't come crying to me because you couldn't rape people for hundreds of thousands of credits on a two slot, any material schematic just because its new.

Kiss my ever-lovin' backside you losers!

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zytecx wrote:

the resource was a duraolly steel with 901 OQ and 951 ut and phrik alum with 900+ Oq 980 UT.

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opps i ment SR not UT

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GraySeven wrote:

If you want to make credits, then Master a real crafting profession. I'd love to be able to buy my Micro-sensor suites, power converters and other master artisan items in bulk from a Master Artisan, but no one sells them. So if you can't be bothered to make those items, don't come crying to me because you couldn't rape people for hundreds of thousands of credits on a two slot, any material schematic just because its new.

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This section right here says it all.

If you need those components yourself, find an artisan Master who can make them, and begin a respectfulbusiness relationship with someone else in your profession tree! WOW! What a novel concept!!!

Tell someone you're in need. But wait, that would require you to respect someone else who's trying to turn a profit in the game in a very easily-crippled market. Surrender for a moment the 'me-only' attitude.. the fact that you pleased one person doesn't make you a mighty moral pillar, since you admit yourself their satisfaction was for your own internal aggrandisement.

Just curious, what are your other skill trees like?

The mighty moral pillar comment should have had a /sarcasm in front of it. I have never claimed moral superiority, it was thrust upon me by another. I was simply commenting on it.

I crippled nothing. I've said over and over that my cost to harvest resources are .28 cpu and that includes ALL of the cost. I still believe I am selling for too much by charging 5cpu for vehicles, but if I sell for much less people will begin to think I'm scamming them somehow. I am still selling for over 7 times my cost.

If you can't get a resource cost of .28, your aren't trying very hard. On a 90% site, my cost drops to around .14cpu. If you are buying resources from people charging 5-10cpu, you're getting ripped off. Not my problem.

I'm a Master Artisan, Master Armorsmith, Master Droid Engineer and am dropping my remaining combat skills as I get what skills I can from the Merchant tree. I will be a pure crafter in about a week.

The only reason people are crying is because they were prevented from gouging the hell out of others on day one and I am not only glad they didn't but proud that I helped stop them. Remember, for every 25k per mission uber commando that can make a million credits a day there are 10 casual players who can't collect 10k credits in the time they are on each day.

I'm not thinking of myself, I seem to be the only one who is NOT thinking of himself.

And believe me, I have a great working relationship with a number of people who provide me with things I need outside of my profession, especially tailors who make the cloth's I need for armorsmithing. But not once have I been able to find a Master Artisan who does factory runs of all of those specialty items I need for my droids. The times I've seen the Master Artisan tag and spoken to the bearer, they said they were only going to have the title up until they made there advanced profession. Don't tell me I haven't tried, because I have, but to no avail.

And I don't make powerups anymore, not even for my own use. And when I buy them, rest assured I don't pay 40-60cpu for them, no matter how good they are. I buy them from someone who knows the value of their product, just as I know the value of mine.

Ooops....over 17 times my cost, missed the one.

You made 1 million in one day at ridiculous low prices. Imagine what you could have made if Master Artisans had used an ounce of their brain to set the market from the onset at a fair price to all. You might have been able to boast about making 10-20mil easy.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot and bragging about it!

-Alster

I made 3x your million today and i was selling my stuff at 80k a bike....keep undercutting me. Do you have a clue as to what really happens? You make less money and when you run out of vehicles you know what? They have to buy from the likes of me and I am not giving all of my hard earned resources and time and effort away for free. So in the end I will have more resources left to make more vehicles because I don't have the need to make more bikes to get by. i.e. more resources.....so i keep getting richer and richer and the undercutter will forever be treading water.lol. Thank goodness for the K-marts of the world.